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In reply to the discussion: Pic Of The Moment: The American Tradition Of Inconveniencing Motorists: A Curious Double Standard [View all]Arkansas Granny
(32,264 posts)35. For those of you who are opposed to this, it's called civil disobedience.
Civil disobedience is usually defined as pertaining to a citizen's relation to the state and its laws, as distinguished from a constitutional impasse in which two public agencies, especially two equally sovereign branches of government, conflict. For instance, if the head of government of a country were to refuse to enforce a decision of that country's highest court, it would not be civil disobedience, since the head of government would be acting in her or his capacity as public official rather than private citizen.[19]
Ronald Dworkin held that there are three types of civil disobedience:
"Integrity-based" civil disobedience occurs when a citizen disobeys a law she or he feels is immoral, as in the case of northerners disobeying the fugitive slave laws by refusing to turn over escaped slaves to authorities.
"Justice-based" civil disobedience occurs when a citizen disobeys laws in order to lay claim to some right denied to her or him, as when blacks illegally protested during the Civil Rights Movement.
"Policy-based" civil disobedience occurs when a person breaks the law in order to change a policy (s)he believes is dangerously wrong.[20]
Some theories of civil disobedience hold that civil disobedience is only justified against governmental entities. Brownlee argues that disobedience in opposition to the decisions of non-governmental agencies such as trade unions, banks, and private universities can be justified if it reflects "a larger challenge to the legal system that permits those decisions to be taken". The same principle, she argues, applies to breaches of law in protest against international organizations and foreign governments.[21]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience
Ronald Dworkin held that there are three types of civil disobedience:
"Integrity-based" civil disobedience occurs when a citizen disobeys a law she or he feels is immoral, as in the case of northerners disobeying the fugitive slave laws by refusing to turn over escaped slaves to authorities.
"Justice-based" civil disobedience occurs when a citizen disobeys laws in order to lay claim to some right denied to her or him, as when blacks illegally protested during the Civil Rights Movement.
"Policy-based" civil disobedience occurs when a person breaks the law in order to change a policy (s)he believes is dangerously wrong.[20]
Some theories of civil disobedience hold that civil disobedience is only justified against governmental entities. Brownlee argues that disobedience in opposition to the decisions of non-governmental agencies such as trade unions, banks, and private universities can be justified if it reflects "a larger challenge to the legal system that permits those decisions to be taken". The same principle, she argues, applies to breaches of law in protest against international organizations and foreign governments.[21]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience
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Pic Of The Moment: The American Tradition Of Inconveniencing Motorists: A Curious Double Standard [View all]
EarlG
Dec 2014
OP
I was actually having this exact conversation yesterday. For what it's worth...
MadDAsHell
Dec 2014
#2
To be perfectly honest I hate them all and dont care if its the unintended result of a
cstanleytech
Dec 2014
#5
And what of the LA Marathon, an event designed to close down streets all over the city?
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2014
#8
One difference is that the LA Marathon, and most marathons, are held on weekends and holidays,
amandabeech
Dec 2014
#14
I'd like to see you plan around a marathon that blocks your only access to the world
Demeter
Dec 2014
#18
I'd plan to be out of the area, or be ready for a list of things to do at home.
amandabeech
Dec 2014
#24
Ever drive on the Long Island Expressway ANY day of the week? I have, be prepared to sit in your
sabrina 1
Dec 2014
#86
No, it's quite intended to have a traffic jam around holiday shopping or sporting events
jeff47
Dec 2014
#23
Point 1, same results, regardless, Point 2- traffic jams are the INTENDED result of marching down
Elmer S. E. Dump
Dec 2014
#32
Yes, but as a practical matter, under the US Constitution, courts have held that governmental
amandabeech
Dec 2014
#15
Any problem with people who have sit-ins on sidewalks in front of abortion clinics?
jberryhill
Dec 2014
#47
I don't like to have to ship stuff back because it doesn't fit or I don't like it.
amandabeech
Dec 2014
#22
Thank god we didnt have people like you in the 60's when inconveniencing people
NoJusticeNoPeace
Dec 2014
#52
Bang-up job you did stopping the war that dragged on until the Ford administration
Recursion
Dec 2014
#71
Atleast your boss might understand but my concern is for the people trying to either pick up their
cstanleytech
Dec 2014
#64
I have wondered what they accomplish when they shut down a highway? I can see shutting down
jwirr
Dec 2014
#16
That is a very broad brush. Sounds like bushes if you are not with us you are against us. By the
jwirr
Dec 2014
#25
Of course. I was not saying they should NOT protest. Merely do it in some way that does not
jwirr
Dec 2014
#31
I realize that is why it is being done this way. No one is paying any attention to anything today.
jwirr
Dec 2014
#39
I don't mind if the protests slow down traffic I am in. At least, I get to see people ...
BlueJazz
Dec 2014
#17
I like this way of protesting but I realize boycotts do not work as easily as they sound. Sit ins
jwirr
Dec 2014
#26
For those of you who are opposed to this, it's called civil disobedience.
Arkansas Granny
Dec 2014
#35