Video & Multimedia
In reply to the discussion: Chris Hedges on Pornography, discussing Empire of Illusion on BookTV [View all]DutchLiberal
(5,744 posts)... but I would like to have a debate based on actual data, on facts and figures, on statistics, on any empirical evidence. Not on anecdotal evidence. Like I said to seabeyond: any woman being abused or coerced is one too many, but I don't see how that makes all women in all of porn victims. In fact, I've seen a LOT of behind-the-scenes videos of porn (can't link, because that would violate the TOS) which show that the women in the business don't take shit from nobody. If they don't like the way they're treated, they walk off the set. They simply stop what they were doing and get the f--- out of there. They swear and curse and smack some dudes around if they don't like what's going on. That's the OTHER side of the story. That's the other side of the medallion.
Like in a recent thread about prostitution, I want to have a nuanced debate. I want to show both sides. Not black and white, not 'right' or 'wrong', but to give the FULL picture. Unfortunately, to some here, doing that automatically puts you in the 'denial camp'; the 'I don't care if women are abused because I've got to have my porn'-camp. Any nuance you bring to the discussion, any critical question you ask the other to back up her claim will get you labeled a 'denier' and an 'enabler'. That is not the way to have a reasonable discussion.
I still hope both seabeyond and redqueen will seriously answer my latest posts, because their logic about porn 'influencing' teenagers is exactly the same as the logic conservatives use to blame rap music and video games for juvenile delinquency and I honestly won't believe that is what they meant to say.