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cheapdate

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41. Let's be clear,
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 08:33 PM
Feb 2015

You parade around, half-cocked, making outrageously uninformed claims, and, now, to ice the cake, you cap it off with the incredibly irritating entreaty (also very popular with libertarian-types) to "do your research".

Case in point: The "farmer with the eye-dropper". The global market for glyphosphate is 1.35 million metric tons. The total acreage of corn and soybeans in the United States is roughly 150 million acres. Roughly 90% of that crop consists of herbicide resistant GMO seed. Treating that acreage at the modest application rate of 1.15 lbs per acre requires 39 million gallons of glyphosphate (41% solution).

No one is using a fucking "eye dropper" on a 1,000 acre soybean field in Mississippi. That's a ridiculous statement and the fact that you've said it, twice in this thread, pretty well shows that you don't quantitatively understand what the fuck you're talking about, or how to distinguish solid arguments from bullshit.

Case in point: "simple 20-30 year efforts at "natural", (man-induced, often failed), hybridization will not feed the world we live in, nor will it enable us to adapt quickly to global climate crises brought-on by man-made global climate change." Who told you this? What farming practices did you consider? What crop varieties did you consider? How did you quantify the results? How does small scale, intensive farming compare with large-scale extensive farming in terms of production? inputs? energy usage? long term sustainability?

Ten-to-one says you haven't seriously consulted actual published information on crop yeilds, much less considered any published comparative studies of different agricultural practices. (Hint - check with the agricultural college in your state.)


But you're gonna strut around and "school" me?

Please.

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No need to speculate on hypothetical benefits or risk of GMO crops GreatGazoo Feb 2015 #1
This should go over well... Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2015 #2
"Neil deGrasse Tyson, Are GMOs Safe?" JDDavis Feb 2015 #3
What the hell does an astrophysicst know about genetics and cell biology? DeSwiss Feb 2015 #16
David Suzuki is not opposed to research on GMO's JDDavis Feb 2015 #21
I Found This Study / Video Flawed... panfluteman Feb 2015 #4
No shortage of flaws going the other way Major Nikon Feb 2015 #14
"Anti-GMO activist has change of heart" JDDavis Feb 2015 #5
Someone needs to throughly check out the finances of Mark Lynas, as I can't help but drynberg Feb 2015 #10
He has denied that publicly. JDDavis Feb 2015 #12
It always helps albino65 Feb 2015 #6
Good Points, Albino! panfluteman Feb 2015 #7
There are also studies albino65 Feb 2015 #11
Three points, and a three questions: JDDavis Feb 2015 #15
GMO Myth: Farmers “drown” crops in “dangerous” glyphosate. Fact: They use eye droppers JDDavis Feb 2015 #20
"might feel encouraged to use more of the herbicide" ??? JDDavis Feb 2015 #9
Here you go albino65 Feb 2015 #13
So you agree with the NIH that reduction of herbicides is a good idea! JDDavis Feb 2015 #19
The NIH doesn't endorse such studies, it just publishes them Major Nikon Feb 2015 #23
SO, GMOs HAVE BEEN DEFEATED IN THE 3 STATES WHERE PEOPLE VOTED, BUT WHY? drynberg Feb 2015 #8
Good question Major Nikon Feb 2015 #26
Well I'll be short since this is the first and the last time we'll ever speak. DeSwiss Feb 2015 #17
Argumentum Ad Monsantum: Bill Maher and The Lure of a Liberal Logical Fallacy JDDavis Feb 2015 #18
You also claimed the whole mental health profession was fraudulent Major Nikon Feb 2015 #28
"Unbelievably bad science in the movie Seeds of Death" JDDavis Feb 2015 #22
... Major Nikon Feb 2015 #27
The question of whether or not GMOs are DIRECTLY hazardous cheapdate Feb 2015 #24
"developing crops that can survive heavy applications of deadly herbicides" JDDavis Feb 2015 #25
The Dupont-Pioneer white paper "Glyphosphate Use for Optimum Field Peformance" cheapdate Feb 2015 #29
But you miss the entire point JDDavis Feb 2015 #30
Oh, I miss the point? cheapdate Feb 2015 #33
Roundup is a horrible product, used 4-10 times less in GMO's than JDDavis Feb 2015 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author JDDavis Feb 2015 #31
So what has been your study of animal and plant DNA? JDDavis Feb 2015 #32
WTF? cheapdate Feb 2015 #35
I'm simply saying you have a large ego as a "process engineer" JDDavis Feb 2015 #36
And I'm saying that falling back to "Where did you earn your PhD" cheapdate Feb 2015 #38
"I support it 100%" JDDavis Feb 2015 #39
Regardless of what questions were raised in the OP, cheapdate Feb 2015 #40
To quote your wisdom again, JDDavis Feb 2015 #37
Let's be clear, cheapdate Feb 2015 #41
You were schooled. HuckleB Mar 2015 #43
Not sure what your point is. cheapdate Mar 2015 #44
K & R. HuckleB Mar 2015 #42
Praises be for green store bought tomatoes! libodem Mar 2015 #45
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