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66. No I don't think you should just forget about it

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 06:32 PM

Apr 2015

I think you should prevent Republicans from ever getting office again and quit beating the dead horse of making Democrats who voted for it pay for something they have admitted was wrong. Did you vote for John Kerry in 2004? He voted for Iraq too.

Get over it. Blame the party really responsible: the Republicans. And punish them by preventing them from ever holding the presidency again. The Republicans would have gotten their war no matter what the Democrats did, they were the majority party. That a number of Democrats caved and bowed to their pressure is definitely shameful, but the response is not to not vote for Hillary if she's the nominee as some here are threatening to do. The response is to make sure the Republicans never attain the majority again.

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Robert Scheer on Hillary Clinton (he's not a fan) [View all] marmar Apr 2015 OP

Recommended. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #1

Gee, from a so-called journalist who supported Rand Paul for Senate tells me all I need to know still_one Apr 2015 #2

Which parts were inaccurate? Arkansas AFDC? Glass Steagall? NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #3

Does not matter. zeemike Apr 2015 #10

In the discussion in the OP, Scheer suggests voting for Rand Paul for president muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #71

Excellent post, and extremely lost on DU. Phlem Apr 2015 #4

Scheer has been one of my favorite journalists since 1980. Cleita Apr 2015 #19

When the LA Times dropped Scheer and announced it would print more JDPriestly Apr 2015 #39

That was . . . really something to behold. pa28 Apr 2015 #5

Well, that does it! I'm voting for Ted Cruz! The real liberal! Downtown Hound Apr 2015 #6

Yes - we know Hillary supporters are aware of her flaws, and don't care. Maedhros Apr 2015 #17

Thank you. 840high Apr 2015 #22

Oh okay. Draft Elizabeth Warren. Downtown Hound Apr 2015 #23

Fuck that "purist" nonsense. Maedhros Apr 2015 #46

Gee, what a loss. Downtown Hound Apr 2015 #49

Bingo. eom BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #52

Right it was the purists on the SCOTUS who gave us the coup of 2000 not Nader. Not to mention Vincardog Apr 2015 #64

Yeah, heard that bullshit before too. Downtown Hound Apr 2015 #67

Hear! Hear! I second that motion! BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #51

Whenever I start hearing words like "purist" or "Big Picture" ... bvar22 Apr 2015 #62

You're the one who has made no argument here. n/t Downtown Hound Apr 2015 #68

+1 BeanMusical Apr 2015 #24

Flaws? More like defects that can't be fixed. Thankfully, there's plenty of time to kick the tires on the Scooby van & consider other nominees. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #26

Excellent post. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #28

+ 1000. I would add wealth inequality to your list. Hillary is part of the problem. antigop Apr 2015 #30

When the list of a candidate's shortcomings is too long to remember them all, Maedhros Apr 2015 #45

I hear ya. Believe me, I do. I agree 100%. nt antigop Apr 2015 #69

It's early. Why not encourage someone to challenge Hillary so that we JDPriestly Apr 2015 #40

Encourage all you want. So far, nobody's seems to be biting Downtown Hound Apr 2015 #50

You assume. She did not do well in 2008 and it was in large part because JDPriestly Apr 2015 #53

Ah, for about the one millionth time Downtown Hound Apr 2015 #54

The choice is not between Hillary and a Republican. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #55

"The choice is not between Hillary and a Republican." Downtown Hound Apr 2015 #57

A Million Dead & Injured, 6 MIllion Displaced, a TRILLION DOLLARS down the toilet, bvar22 Apr 2015 #63

No I don't think you should just forget about it Downtown Hound Apr 2015 #66

HRC - The Manchurian Wall Street Candidate - The 99% Money Will Never Be Safe Again cantbeserious Apr 2015 #7

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This Is What You Get panfluteman Apr 2015 #11

Good post, and true Thespian2 Apr 2015 #14

so true. I'm just worried about how we go about bbgrunt Apr 2015 #18

+1 InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #27

Hah! Truth tellers are such killjoys! RufusTFirefly Apr 2015 #12

http://nativemobile.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Dont-Pity-the-1-Percent-Tapdaq-CMO-Seek blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #13

Well it will not be necessary for me to agree with Robert Scheer's opinion of Hillary and one thing Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #15

Yes, my father, a conservative Republican, was always fond of that saying Cleita Apr 2015 #20

What is wrong with providing training a person for a job while providing a safety net Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #25

Yes, it is. But conservatives don't think we should have a free education Cleita Apr 2015 #33

I am not pessimistic, I am optimistic, ergo, I have worked in my life, and I appreciate opportunties Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #34

The system provides for your needs whether you realize it or not. Cleita Apr 2015 #35

Look, I am talking about welfare reform, this was a complaint against Bill Clinton while he was in Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #36

I know you are, but to well fed people who have never had to seek help, Cleita Apr 2015 #37

I'm sure it consoled a lot of people in the crash of 2008. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #41

You know child care is paid with safety net programs. At least traning programs usually provided Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #43

It's great to train people for jobs. I loved working. I am now retired. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #47

I think this is running off in a ditch, I do not have a problem with a mother staying home Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #61

Well that's it in a nutshell Joe Turner Apr 2015 #16

Thom Hartmann did say this today about Hillary. Cleita Apr 2015 #21

Elizabeth Warren knows how to deal with Republicans. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #42

Has Elizabethe Warren had ANY success dealing with Republicans? Darb Apr 2015 #44

Good heavens. Has Elizabeth Warren had any successes? JDPriestly Apr 2015 #48

She was part of creating Dodd-Frank, but she wasn't in Congress to pass it. Darb Apr 2015 #58

The creation of the consumer bureau. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #59

We are not adversaries on this I must say, just so you know. Darb Apr 2015 #60

Kicked and recommended a brazillion times. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #29

thank you. nt antigop Apr 2015 #31

To channel Smokey Robinson, "I'll second that emotion." Smarmie Doofus Apr 2015 #32

Excellent. My thoughts precisely. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #38

He speaks for me. K & R dreamnightwind Apr 2015 #56

When I think about Hillary, I remember this: PADemD Apr 2015 #65

He is spot on Carolina Apr 2015 #70