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rpannier

(24,898 posts)
90. I think there is a decent percentage that do and some that don't, but...
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:49 PM
May 2015

By but, I mean they don't change at all. They may have been a pro-environmentalist, pro-choice, pro-civil rights person who opposed something like gay marriage.
As more and more people have become in favor of it, they are now in the conservative camp. Not because they shifted, but because the majority did.
Example: My father was an Eisnehower, Rockefeller, Ford, right of center Republican. As the neo-con movement has taken control of the Republican party he seems to many to be left-of-center. None of his views have really changed, the definitions and policies changed.

I think others move in one or the other directions when they perceive their views as being targets. If they're opposed to gay marriage and people call them bigots or close-minded, they begin to shift towards people who share that value. The new group reinforces their belief that gay marriage is wrong and 'reminds' them that another group they have supported (Unions or public employees or whatever) support gay marriage and they slide away from their support for that group and so on.

Look at how desegregation soured so many on the Democratic Party in the south.

IMO it's a variety of things. And as I said, some people never change, it's just the center shifted left or right

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All the more reason to fight for the Democratic Party. onehandle May 2015 #1
The GOP is counting on Divide and Conquer--because it's the only hope they have. nt MADem May 2015 #20
puts Grand OLD Party in perspective as they court mentally ill/criminal/fundie wackos wordpix May 2015 #84
all the more reason to make sure the corporate ebola doesn't kill the soul of Democrats too yurbud May 2015 #87
not soon enough. niyad May 2015 #2
expect them to crank up NewJeffCT May 2015 #3
Now that...is a vision...lol...n/t monmouth4 May 2015 #4
I've been hearing this for some time now.. mountain grammy May 2015 #5
That's because it was always likely to be nonsense FBaggins May 2015 #7
Today's young voters may not be as quick to turn right as their elders! LongTomH May 2015 #30
At 67, I'm a boomer who, luckily, didn't eat corn flakes. mountain grammy May 2015 #37
I agree. She voted Republican through Bush I. ALBliberal May 2015 #78
She doesn't need to explain the hard left turn, I understand that, being left myself. mountain grammy May 2015 #83
you are saying exactly what I would like to hear from her ALBliberal May 2015 #85
This message was self-deleted by its author mountain grammy May 2015 #81
I think you may be surprised rpannier May 2015 #63
Well said. mountain grammy May 2015 #82
I know very few among my peers who turned right when they aged. OnionPatch May 2015 #73
I think there is a decent percentage that do and some that don't, but... rpannier May 2015 #90
Can they preserve the trend that had people becoming more conservative as they grew older brewens May 2015 #74
Redistricting. Voter apathy. Rozlee May 2015 #18
It's called excuses. n/t jtuck004 May 2015 #41
What I've been saying, mountain grammy Hekate May 2015 #42
Even if quantifiable, chapdrum May 2015 #6
This makes sense, but then how does one explain 2012? Damansarajaya May 2015 #8
Those two events happened in 2010 and 2014, not 2012. onehandle May 2015 #22
It was the midterms where those losses happened. 2012 was a presidential year. n/t Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #34
Yes, that's right. I meant 2014, didn't I. Damansarajaya May 2015 #91
I think that the next step for the Democrats, is the appeal fo Hispanics...traditionally liberal... libdem4life May 2015 #9
No problem! Citizens United made it OK for greenbacks to vote! erronis May 2015 #10
You said it chapdrum May 2015 #16
HATE doesn't win. That's why they're on the way out the door. nt MADem May 2015 #11
Turnout, turnout, turnout 47of74 May 2015 #12
Exactly! Marthe48 May 2015 #70
The GOP base and the Fox New viewership are both dying off Gothmog May 2015 #13
I think it's a damn shame we depend on death packman May 2015 #14
Do you think "ideas" would have won over those dead Republicans? Please expound. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #35
I'd like to - however, I have no idea packman May 2015 #44
So, ideology doesn't play into the equation for you? Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #46
This JUST MEANS THE REPUBLICANS will find more ways yuiyoshida May 2015 #15
Just remember what we said over a decade ago: Live Free or Diebold. nt Hekate May 2015 #51
Oops SlimJimmy May 2015 #76
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of dinosaurs. louis-t May 2015 #17
...or pass new laws to make corporations more important than votes... C Moon May 2015 #19
Then what happened in 2014 Politicalboi May 2015 #21
Democratic turnout sucks in the midterms. The pool of voters we depend on don't get riled up for... Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #36
And the "whoever is in loses" pattern was confirmed with the 2006 mid-term BumRushDaShow May 2015 #52
Unfortunately, unsophisticated voters think that he who controls the WH, controls government. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #57
Yup BumRushDaShow May 2015 #64
What's interesting about midterm GOP turnout is they have reliable issues, & put them on the ballots Hekate May 2015 #55
Your post is spot on Hekate. However, the GOP has been genius at local politicking. Dems seem to.. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #58
I'm in Ohio-so many unopposed seats Marthe48 May 2015 #71
Perhaps someday progressives will take a leaf from the GOP playbook. Local politics matter. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #75
This old white retired guy can't STAND today's GOP Faygo Kid May 2015 #23
I so badly want to believe that the GOP's days are over. Initech May 2015 #24
And this is why they are gerrymanding the districts like hell and passing voter ID laws to make it cstanleytech May 2015 #25
Tombstoned! DemoTex May 2015 #26
O'Reilly left-of-center2012 May 2015 #27
Good. n/t Hotler May 2015 #28
No sane woman wants to fuck a Republican LiberalEsto May 2015 #29
wishful thinking. there will always be stingy hateful racist GREEDY etc etc people. pansypoo53219 May 2015 #31
wishful thinking DonCoquixote May 2015 #32
Gallup: Young Americans' Affinity for Democratic Party Has Grown Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #39
Easy solution: Start more wars, and tell police to start shooting people on sight. TrollBuster9090 May 2015 #33
Godspeed! Tom Ripley May 2015 #38
demographics are not kind to you if your a republican captainarizona May 2015 #40
Well which party looks forward and which party looks backwards? Iliyah May 2015 #43
Earth dying off too. Wonder who will be left? n/t jtuck004 May 2015 #45
This would have been great and meaningful news in the day whatchamacallit May 2015 #47
The Republican Party is not diminished by aging polynomial May 2015 #48
Quoting Paul Ryan from the last Stupid Party Convention... czarjak May 2015 #49
Adios, crazies. Hulk May 2015 #50
Let's not forget conservative women. AirmensMom May 2015 #53
That's why they gerrymander. "If you can't win it, rig it!" n/t Beartracks May 2015 #54
But... But what about their Big Tent?? Beartracks May 2015 #56
Not fast enough. calimary May 2015 #59
i think this report is meant to make Democratic voters complacent. SleeplessinSoCal May 2015 #60
I will piss on their graves. lovemydog May 2015 #61
Those statistics help you understand why the GOP needs to suppress the vote! liberal N proud May 2015 #62
First the brain then the body underpants May 2015 #65
Maybe the Republicans will learn to become more tolerant caballojm May 2015 #66
How mortifying for them! Rosa Luxemburg May 2015 #67
The GOP is dying. The GOP is dying The GOP is dying - LiberalElite May 2015 #68
I don't know man. Phlem May 2015 #69
Okay...but **younger** Dems sleeping through Election Day amounts to the same thing. FailureToCommunicate May 2015 #72
Rest In Peace, Republicans! panfluteman May 2015 #77
HOPE for the FUTURE is in YOUTH Martin Eden May 2015 #79
So true Martin Eden! lovemydog May 2015 #89
I assume this means greater voter suppression efforts. Bradical79 May 2015 #80
Dear Fixed news viewers, tea party members, and ignorant southerners IHateTheGOP May 2015 #86
There's no need to fear! Gerry Mander is here! AllyCat May 2015 #88
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