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MADem

(135,425 posts)
59. No, let's start with your insults. The one here who is rude, abusive, and "ill informed"
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 02:51 AM
Jun 2015

is you. Do you seriously think people can't read the stuff you've written here? There's no cloak of invisibility over your poorly chosen words! In order to participate here, EVERYONE has to be able to read--and they can read what you've written, and marvel at your ... moxie!



The point that whooshed right over your angry, fussy head is that people EVOLVE in their thinking. No one is "comparing" stances--the point that you were just so unable to grasp, so busy you were engaging in "piece of work, etc." name - calling, is that smart people--like Hillary and Bernie--GROW.

Obtuse people don't seem to manage to process that "complex" (cough) concept--they double down, and call scenes of multiple rape "satire." They then try to compare apples and oranges, act like it matters to drag up bullshit stances that candidateS no longer hold, and get upset when no one takes their poorly articulated--and at the end of the day, MEANINGLESS-- point.

You can't walk this back, you've completely shot any hope of having "authority" in this conversation--you put quite a bit of effort into disparaging me, insisting that piece of utter crap Sanders has DISAVOWED is "satire," and when that doesn't go well, NOW you want to try to talk policy?

You've spent all your credibility. You have none. And it's all YOUR OWN FAULT.

Poor Bernie. He's a good man, with a few lousy supporters who do him no good. It's not a "perfectionist ideal" to take your cues from the guy you purport--and I am going to repeat that, PURPORT--to support. In fact, it's what NORMAL supporters do. Yet you proudly tell me you have a problem with that, that it's some kind of "perfectionist ideal, " an unreasonable demand. Hmmmm! Time reveals all!

Anyone who calls scribblings that deal with multiple rape "satire" in this day and age--after the author of the garbage has repeatedly expressed contrition, disowned it, called it stupid, regretted it, etc.--is quite PLAINLY not taking the point at all, has a real problem with tone deafness, is doing a pisspoor job of supporting his candidate, and is in no position to speak with any authority. Why? Because calling that essay anything but "stupid"--which is what Sanders called it--is neither liberal nor "progressive."

Now you toddle along and have a nice day.

SMH!

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Times they are a changing Evergreen Emerald Jun 2015 #1
I would rather vote for someone who knew right from wrong in the first place Cheese Sandwich Jun 2015 #2
More BS on a nice Saturday Evergreen Emerald Jun 2015 #4
Did you need to 'evolve' before knowing that marriage should be available to same sex couples? peacebird Jun 2015 #7
This!^^^^^^10000! 2banon Jun 2015 #34
Many of us always knew that what Hillary said about marriage in that video JDPriestly Jun 2015 #22
And This! 1000!! 2banon Jun 2015 #35
Your last sentence especially hits the mark with me. Bohunk68 Jun 2015 #77
Some of us know right from wrong without having to evolve..... paleotn Jun 2015 #43
Bernie never claimed he was perfect. MADem Jun 2015 #18
MADem, did you actually read the article? JDPriestly Jun 2015 #24
Are you kidding? Good grief, not even HE is defending that piece of shit! MADem Jun 2015 #47
Again, did you read the original article that Bernie wrote? JDPriestly Jun 2015 #48
Well, you and Bernie have nothing in common, apparently. MADem Jun 2015 #50
You are a piece of work. TM99 Jun 2015 #52
What a rude comment, and an untrue one, too! I did no "comparing." MADem Jun 2015 #53
I love watching someone weasel TM99 Jun 2015 #54
Now you're accusing me of "weaseling?" "Regurgitating?" You really are full of personal insult!! MADem Jun 2015 #55
Let's start with the facts. TM99 Jun 2015 #56
No, let's start with your insults. The one here who is rude, abusive, and "ill informed" MADem Jun 2015 #59
Nope! TM99 Jun 2015 #62
Now I'm "full of it?" No, I'm not. But you have to lead with crudeness, doncha! MADem Jun 2015 #65
If you want to discuss TM99 Jun 2015 #70
You lost your ticket to set the agenda, pal. MADem Jun 2015 #71
They were not 'rapey'. TM99 Jun 2015 #72
More insults and fiction--you are like a broken record. MADem Jun 2015 #73
I put the wrong link. TM99 Jun 2015 #74
Whatever. You don't appear to have a grasp of the material. MADem Jun 2015 #75
Did you read the actual article that Bernie wrote all those years ago? JDPriestly Jun 2015 #58
You keep asking that, like you're hoping (oh, so much) I say no and that it will make a difference. MADem Jun 2015 #60
Having actually attended women's liberation meetings in the early 1970s, I do not find the JDPriestly Jun 2015 #61
Oh how lovely!! And you think that because you don't find multiple rape imagery offensive, that MADem Jun 2015 #64
"People EVOLVE. Senator Sanders did. So did SoS Clinton." JDPriestly Jun 2015 #66
Come on--FDR didn't write essays that discussed rape fantasies. Apples-oranges! MADem Jun 2015 #67
We agree. It's wising up that counts. And my interpretation of Sanders' essay was that it JDPriestly Jun 2015 #68
We'll have to spiit the diff. I will agree on the wising up, but that essay is just MADem Jun 2015 #69
Epic fail, MADem. Try again, please. (nt) paleotn Jun 2015 #44
No, it's not an epic fail--it's right on point, and you know it. No need to try again when the MADem Jun 2015 #46
Nope… what you said is a false accusation - find a valid point to argue here... MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #81
We can yep v. nope all day here--my view stands, sorry you can't handle it. nt MADem Jun 2015 #82
Handle it? MrMickeysMom Jun 2015 #83
Just because you say so, that doesn't make your opinions facts. Now have a nice day! nt MADem Jun 2015 #84
+1,000 Scuba Jun 2015 #21
Gay marriage, IWR, Patriot Act... Hillary has 20/20 hindsight. thesquanderer Jun 2015 #78
I never needed to 'evolve'. I knew that love is love regardless of genders involved. peacebird Jun 2015 #5
You are the greatest person ever. Evergreen Emerald Jun 2015 #6
No, but I have always believed in equal rights peacebird Jun 2015 #8
Makes two of us Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #16
This is the kind of nichomachus Jun 2015 #38
Hillary is an expert at... raindaddy Jun 2015 #39
But that was in 2004. Wilms Jun 2015 #3
I think you are right about her letting the Republicans take the lead. A Simple Game Jun 2015 #9
anything that's OK with Rove is OK with the turd way Doctor_J Jun 2015 #26
Well, I did not need to "evolve" Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #10
Me either peacebird Jun 2015 #12
I don't trust her either n/t MissDeeds Jun 2015 #27
My brother and his wife (a woman, FWIW) never wanted nor had children. Is their marriage invalid? peacebird Jun 2015 #11
Good question MissDeeds Jun 2015 #28
As is my brothers... My hubby & I have been married 21 years, we believe love is all that matters! peacebird Jun 2015 #29
That was very disappointing. antiquie Jun 2015 #13
Recent Enough to matter. 2banon Jun 2015 #36
Lots of evolving happening, except for accepting those who have evolved. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #14
'Committed to the sanctity and bedrock principle'. Left no doubt about THAT position. pa28 Jun 2015 #15
Not very committed Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #17
John Kerry in 2004 supported civil unions, not marriage OKNancy Jun 2015 #19
No peacebird Jun 2015 #30
Thank goodness this evil is gone... SoapBox Jun 2015 #20
she's liberal! she's liberal!! she's liberal!!! Doctor_J Jun 2015 #23
Perhaps she was "sleep deprived" when she said this? RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #25
This issue is one of my least concerns in 2015 Kalidurga Jun 2015 #31
How about a man and a woman who don't want to have children? SheilaT Jun 2015 #32
this is her monkey on her back passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #33
As a gay man i am thrilled when people come evolved. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #37
OFFS ...this is the new century, not the fucking 1900's. L0oniX Jun 2015 #40
Hillary never takes a position Thespian2 Jun 2015 #41
OP should read "I am really stretching to make Hillary look bad" rurallib Jun 2015 #42
I have to agree. Maedhros Jun 2015 #57
So Much For The Kindler Gentler Progressive HRC cantbeserious Jun 2015 #45
Her position has been evolving as the winds have changed. marble falls Jun 2015 #49
Sickening. and this is just one reason my gay ass m-lekktor Jun 2015 #51
Obama said about as much in 08 awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #63
I can't wait for the debates JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #76
.... m-lekktor Jun 2015 #79
A trip down memory lane Autumn Jun 2015 #80
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