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MADem

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71. You lost your ticket to set the agenda, pal.

Sun Jun 14, 2015, 05:32 AM

Jun 2015

And again, you failed to take my point.

It wasn't that he "had" to evolve--it's that he DID evolve--he could have held on to his creepy rape-y views, but he realized that they were (his word) STUPID and he "distanced himself" from the views expressed in that ill-thought-out essay.

Here, let me break it down to three simple sentences:

Smart people learn and grow, and adjust their thinking.

Stupid people don't.

Both candidates are smart.

I'm not the one "playing a game" here--you are. You kept taunting me with insults, and I imagine you hoped I'd respond in kind. You clearly don't know me very well. I tend to "consider the source" and all I can tell you is the source of your remarks acquitted himself very poorly, indeed.

Not your finest hour, by a long shot.

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