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truedelphi

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59. You totally ignored what for me was the main point of the
Sat May 12, 2012, 02:18 PM
May 2012

my remarks and went out on your own tangent.

The police or border crossing official wanted to know the particular name of a particular store. Otherwise he was going to put this couple into the "box" that they were possible terrorists.

Isn't this ridiculous? I mean, stop for one minute and think about it... How does it make us safer - that the border patrol is now mainly concerned with the attitudes of people crossing the border.

If they discover someone to be a free spirit -why detain the fuck out of them. Meanwhile the real terrorists are walking the required walk and talking the required talk. If they were terrorists, you better beleive they would have an answer. The fact that the man didn't have a name of a a store means they were just casual tourists. If they were terrorists, they would have had a complete and totally accountable profile of what their visit entailed.

What this shows me is that we have gone from a nation of common sense, to a nation where these bureaucrats can detain us on account of not fitting into the very narrow margins of their training manual examples. Detention should be employed only in the most extreme cases, but as this video shows, it is now routine to hassle regular people.

I used to visit relatives who lived six miles short of the Canadian border, and we went back and forth over the border a dozen time sin two weeks. Never any hassle. But the war on drugs,which let's admit it, is a phony setup, that causes the young and those of color to end up jailed for very little, while those most guilty are sent here from south of the border, cleaned up and then become the owners of banks, so their illustrious drug cartel parents can launder money.

And the war on terror is basically phoney too.

You can avoid discussing what I am discussing and make your points, which are not invalid of themselves, but which are invalid in terms of what I am talking about. Hit reply to the main OP and not these remarks of mine

Holy CRAP ! yesphan May 2012 #1
So much for that couple ever coming here to shop again! n/t truedelphi May 2012 #2
Yeah, that's going to help the economy - did anyone ask if they even KNOW what stores are there? HopeHoops May 2012 #13
We could help our local economy overnight if we simply pared back truedelphi May 2012 #15
Yeah, but the containers are just from who-the-fuck-knows where - these were CANADIANS! HopeHoops May 2012 #18
When are these people going to learn to just answer the questions and don't lip off? teddy51 May 2012 #3
So it's your contention that you have absolutely no rights in the presence of police authority? bigmonkey May 2012 #23
As a Canadian citizen crossing the US border you have absolutely no rights. Kill the attitude, teddy51 May 2012 #25
I think the pigs just wanted to strip search the wife, maybe the husband too. xtraxritical May 2012 #52
Don't be an enabler, Teddy Courtesy Flush May 2012 #36
I guess my only response would be, if you want the trouble that comes with asking why then by all teddy51 May 2012 #37
We used to have a "joke" in Los Angeles: How do you make a cop hit you in the head with their KurtNYC May 2012 #43
But that's exactly what happens. Serve The Servants May 2012 #40
Absolutely. We are losing out rights because fewer people are asking "Why?" AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #46
Exactly. BeliQueen May 2012 #42
As an American I appologize for the way these people were treated think May 2012 #4
I don't at all, just answer the questions and don't lip off is a good way to keep it. Just to be teddy51 May 2012 #5
The boarder guards were total dicks. Just because you can be an asshole doesn't mean you should be. think May 2012 #9
I cross the border on a regular basis and have run into some total dicks on both sides. teddy51 May 2012 #11
The qustion was asnine. How can you tell someone the name of a store if truedelphi May 2012 #14
If you think the guys in this tape were "complete dicks" then you might not know the full range KurtNYC May 2012 #45
You totally ignored what for me was the main point of the truedelphi May 2012 #59
x 2 n/t AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #47
His response bec May 2012 #41
Worst I ever had 15 years ago was a Golden Retriever sniffing my butt at the airport. HopeHoops May 2012 #6
This is not that atypical... rexcat May 2012 #7
Yep, but your better off not to have an attitude with them cause one is not going to win. teddy51 May 2012 #10
When I return to the US... rexcat May 2012 #16
It would be a shame to get some blow back from Canadian border guards, but that may very well happen AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #48
Never piss off the dude in the booth sharp_stick May 2012 #8
Therefore the USA is a Police State. Q.E.D. nt Xipe Totec May 2012 #22
You won't hear much sharp_stick May 2012 #53
The problem with the Canadians is that encounter nice people and didn't realize he was an asshole. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #49
Yup sharp_stick May 2012 #54
This makes my physically ill. peace13 May 2012 #12
"You are guilty until deemed innocent in the US" jberryhill May 2012 #17
Entered or not I believe from the conversation that they are under US control. n/t peace13 May 2012 #57
Using faux-psychology to determine terrorists? Maybe they are just being jerks to be jerks. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #50
wow... AsahinaKimi May 2012 #19
I live 20 miles from the Peace Bridge (between Buffalo US and Ft. Erie Canada) I have seen, heard Dragonfli May 2012 #21
I used to travel up to VanCouver to visit friends AsahinaKimi May 2012 #33
What is the source Meiko May 2012 #20
Just a hunch... rationalcalgarian May 2012 #24
Thats what I was thinking Meiko May 2012 #51
I'm surprised anyone would be shocked by this police state treatment southmost May 2012 #26
Three terrorists per day? rationalcalgarian May 2012 #27
It was no idle boast, we witnessed him catching 2 Canadian "terrorists" right there! Go USA!! /nt Dragonfli May 2012 #29
One would think so wouldn't they? But seriously, there are a good number of Border Agents just teddy51 May 2012 #31
And when the woman starts getting upset, her husband commands her to SIT DOWN! klook May 2012 #28
It sounded to me like he was trying to protect her from a quixotic attempt to protect him. Dragonfli May 2012 #30
Maybe that's all it was -- I heard it as the guy getting a little too testosterone crazed klook May 2012 #35
Power just power that is all its about. Shame of those police officers. I don't blame those people southernyankeebelle May 2012 #32
Did I miss the guard asking for passports or pass cards? The Wielding Truth May 2012 #34
My family of origin are Canadian citizens. I would like to apologize to Canada truth2power May 2012 #38
Outrageous! AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #39
"The superiors of the jerk in the video clip should discipline him." They won't because teddy51 May 2012 #44
I think allot of times these US border guards try to intimidate these people to get them to teddy51 May 2012 #55
Why not just answer with what you are shopping for? KurtNYC May 2012 #56
Stick to flying... Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2012 #58
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