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edcantor

(325 posts)
18. I have followed them for months, my friend.
Sat May 19, 2012, 07:34 PM
May 2012

Last edited Sat May 19, 2012, 08:12 PM - Edit history (1)

I was fascinated with hearing their first audition in Manchester, UK in March. I thought they should rise to the top of the heap of talent in that show, of which America has a similar kind of set-up, I guess. (Unfortunately a woman and her trained dog made first place in the finals!!?! What do the English know about history of their culture, good quality community activism for youth, and choral singing in what is a foreign language to the Brits?).

These guys live in about 10 small towns in the southwest valleys of Wales, about 20-50 miles from Cardiff and/or Swansea, spectacular rolling hilly country in the west of England. The roughly 10 groups practice separately for weeks and come together only for final rehearsals and performances at various civic events. There is a church sponsorship of each of these groups, although they are not religious choirs as such.

Wales is not really a separate country in the UK, although the relationship with Parliament and London has had various forms and ups and downs since about 1200 AD. However, the Welsh language pre-dates modern English by 300-500 years at least, perhaps thousands of years. Some cognates exist in both languages, (a cognate is a word that sounds and means the same, roughly, in both languages). One example of a cognate you will hear in this song is the Welsh word "onest":: English: "honest". Other influences upon the Welsh language come from both forms of Gaelic, Irish and Scottish, Gaelic being distinct from Welsh, yet Gaelic having Irish and Scottish major dialects. Scholars today are still mystified as to the exact origins and influences that brought about the Welsh language, distinct from Aglo-Saxon and French roots of modern English.


Wales was once famous for coal and mineral mining, as well as farming and herding, but much of the more modern mining techniques have led to most mines being exhausted of ore. Sheep farming and other forms of agriculture still survive and predominate, along with a few regional industries, and tourism these days, when much of southern Wales is but a 3 hour drive out of London. Some of the stone for the Stonehendge comes from northern Wales.

The Wales section of Great Britain has been the location of discoveries of human skeletal bones dated back about 30 thousand years, so Wales has been occupied by humans for a long long time. At certain periods in history, as today, the gulf stream made Wales a relatively moderate climate compared to equal latitudes in Europe or elsewhere in the British Isles. Thus the foundations of the Welsh language may be contain some of the oldest phonemes (sounds) in all of the European language group. Listen to the first soloist, as he pronounces his "R"s in a rather spectacular way, along with the "OI" (as in oil) frequently appearing before another hard consonnant. Welsh may have been the foundation of many modern sounds in English that are not present in Germanic or Romance languages. (like the "TH" in The, and oi in oil or the British rugby cheer expression "OY OY!)

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Well, I failed the challenge pretty quick, yesphan May 2012 #1
YUP Iwillnevergiveup May 2012 #2
This audition tape is from March, they went on to edcantor May 2012 #11
Thanks for posting this Iwillnevergiveup May 2012 #13
not just a lump.. Voice for Peace May 2012 #3
Same here. trof May 2012 #4
Well, I made it three minutes... Lifelong Protester May 2012 #5
This needs to go viral. How stunningly beautiful. What struck me is we don't know what monmouth May 2012 #6
I rather like this one.... one lump or two? 2on2u May 2012 #7
Wow! Make that the Five Tenors! JNelson6563 May 2012 #9
That was wonderful! JNelson6563 May 2012 #8
Beautiful! And Welsh to boot, one of the roots of my ancestral tree. Citizen Worker May 2012 #10
See my post number 11 here for more info on this group. edcantor May 2012 #12
wow Wraith20878 May 2012 #14
THIS Iwillnevergiveup May 2012 #15
The Welsh and English translation of Lyrics edcantor May 2012 #16
edcantor - I nominate you Iwillnevergiveup May 2012 #17
I have followed them for months, my friend. edcantor May 2012 #18
Historical Correction Stifyn Oct 2012 #26
The full version of the broadcast Semi-Finals edcantor May 2012 #19
How the 10-12 separate choirs make the sausage that is.. edcantor May 2012 #20
And, as a sample of spoken Welsh, here is... edcantor May 2012 #21
And the final reason why O.B.A exists, with audience participation edcantor May 2012 #22
Just found last Satruday's final full broadcast performance link edcantor May 2012 #23
It is beautiful, what the human race could be. Inspired me to find more videos by them. Thanks! freshwest May 2012 #24
The most beautiful thing I've seen in a long time, but then I'm a big old wuss. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #25
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