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edcantor

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21. And, as a sample of spoken Welsh, here is...
Sat May 19, 2012, 09:20 PM
May 2012

the director (40 yrs plus?) of Only Boys Aloud, introducing his group for a concert.

Notice how he has a bit of a problem speaking Welsh fluently to his audience, who will probably understand most of it, (if they grew up on Wales), but he resorts to English when Welsh words are not immediately coming to his mind at the end of his intro.

But here's another performance of our wonderful group of guys: (along with ONLY MEN ALOUD, the sponsor group)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sosban_Fach

Sosban Fach (Welsh for "Little Saucepan&quot is a traditional Welsh folk song. It is one of the best-known and most often sung songs in the Welsh language.

The song catalogues the troubles of a harassed housewife. The song is mostly associated with the rugby union club Llanelli RFC and, more recently, the Scarlets regional rugby side. The association derives from Llanelli's tin plating industry, which used to tin-plate steel saucepans and other kitchen utensils as a cheap supply to the British public. During the final years of Stradey Park, the former ground of Llanelli RFC and the Scarlets, the goalposts were adorned with Scarlet saucepans as a tribute to the town's history; the utensils have been transferred to the clubs' new ground, Parc y Scarlets. Also, the Scarlets' official magazine is titled Sosban.

This song is alluded to as 'Calcifer's silly saucepan song' in the book Howl's Moving Castle by Diana Wynne Jones. It is also used as background music in The Goon Show episode The Mighty Wurlitzer, with one character telling another, "I've come to bring your saucepan back." The Welsh rock band Man during the 1970s sometimes brought the Gwalia Male Voice Choir on stage to sing the song during shows. In the Steptoe & Son episode The Lead Man Cometh Harold Steptoe says "Saucepan vach and all that" in an attempt to speak Welsh.

[edit]Lyrics

Welsh
Mae bys Meri-Ann wedi brifo,
A Dafydd y gwas ddim yn iach.
Mae'r baban yn y crud yn crio,
A'r gath wedi sgrapo Joni bach.
Sosban fach yn berwi ar y tân,
Sosban fawr yn berwi ar y llawr,
A'r gath wedi sgrapo Joni bach.
Dai bach y sowldiwr,
Dai bach y sowldiwr,
Dai bach y sowldiwr,
A gwt ei grys e mas.
Mae bys Meri-Ann wedi gwella,
A Dafydd y gwas yn ei fedd;
Mae'r baban yn y crud wedi tyfu,
A'r gath wedi huno mewn hedd.
Sosban fach yn berwi ar y tân
Sosban fawr yn berwi ar y llawr
A'r gath wedi huno mewn hedd.
Dai bach y sowldiwr,
Dai bach y sowldiwr,
Dai bach y sowldiwr,
A gwt ei grys e mas.
Aeth hen Fari Jones i Ffair y Caerau
I brynu set o lestri de;
Ond mynd i'r ffos aeth Mari gyda'i llestri
Trwy yfed gormod lawer iawn o 'de'
Sosban fach yn berwi ar y tân
Sosban fawr yn berwi ar y llawr
A'r gath wedi huno mewn hedd.


English (literal translation)
Mary-Ann has hurt her finger,
And David the slave is not well.
The baby in the cradle is crying,
And the cat has scrammed little Johnny.
A little saucepan is boiling on the fire,
A big saucepan is boiling on the floor,
And the cat has scratched little Johnny.
Little Dai the soldier,
Little Dai the soldier,
Little Dai the soldier,
And his shirt tail is hanging out.
Mary-Ann's finger has got better,
And David the servant is in his grave;
The baby in the cradle is crying,
And the cat is 'asleep in peace'.
A little saucepan is boiling on the fire,
A big saucepan is boiling on the floor,
And the cat is 'asleep in peace'.
Little Dai the soldier,
Little Dai the soldier,
Little Dai the soldier,
And his shirt tail is hanging out.
Old Mary Jones went to the fair in Caerau,
To buy a tea set;
But Mary and her teacups ended up in a ditch,
Through the consumption of rather too much "tea".
A little saucepan is boiling on the fire,
A big saucepan is boiling on the floor,
And the cat is 'asleep in peace'.

Notice how there are lots of "cognates" in Welsh for English words .. (words that sound and mean about the same). Welsh: "Sosban" English "Saucepan"
When sung slowly, the melody can deceive non-speakers of Welsh into thinking the song is a hymn than rather than a folk song.

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Well, I failed the challenge pretty quick, yesphan May 2012 #1
YUP Iwillnevergiveup May 2012 #2
This audition tape is from March, they went on to edcantor May 2012 #11
Thanks for posting this Iwillnevergiveup May 2012 #13
not just a lump.. Voice for Peace May 2012 #3
Same here. trof May 2012 #4
Well, I made it three minutes... Lifelong Protester May 2012 #5
This needs to go viral. How stunningly beautiful. What struck me is we don't know what monmouth May 2012 #6
I rather like this one.... one lump or two? 2on2u May 2012 #7
Wow! Make that the Five Tenors! JNelson6563 May 2012 #9
That was wonderful! JNelson6563 May 2012 #8
Beautiful! And Welsh to boot, one of the roots of my ancestral tree. Citizen Worker May 2012 #10
See my post number 11 here for more info on this group. edcantor May 2012 #12
wow Wraith20878 May 2012 #14
THIS Iwillnevergiveup May 2012 #15
The Welsh and English translation of Lyrics edcantor May 2012 #16
edcantor - I nominate you Iwillnevergiveup May 2012 #17
I have followed them for months, my friend. edcantor May 2012 #18
Historical Correction Stifyn Oct 2012 #26
The full version of the broadcast Semi-Finals edcantor May 2012 #19
How the 10-12 separate choirs make the sausage that is.. edcantor May 2012 #20
And, as a sample of spoken Welsh, here is... edcantor May 2012 #21
And the final reason why O.B.A exists, with audience participation edcantor May 2012 #22
Just found last Satruday's final full broadcast performance link edcantor May 2012 #23
It is beautiful, what the human race could be. Inspired me to find more videos by them. Thanks! freshwest May 2012 #24
The most beautiful thing I've seen in a long time, but then I'm a big old wuss. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #25
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