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(17,493 posts)you were learning when there is no other choice.
The instructor said "Look into your attacker's eyes as the eyes are the window of the soul. If you feel he intends to seriously injure or kill you, you have little or nothing to lose by resisting him."
Fortunately I have never had to use any of the skills I learned in the that class and I hope and pray I never will. It is also true that never having been in such as situation, I might end up on my knees praying to my attacker to not kill me.
However I do remember some of the skills I learned and feel that I might have some chance of disarming my attacker even if I ended up seriously injured. Of course now I am much older now and my physical conditioning is not what it was thirty years ago. I realize my limitations.
You often react as you have been trained. If you don't have some training, obviously your chances are considerably less as you will be trying to think of what you can do and may simply freeze under the stress. It is totally unfair to blame the people in the Oregon classroom of not trying to overwhelm the shooter. However it is true that they might have been able to swarm him and render him harmless if they would have been prepared. Some experts do suggest throwing items such as books and chairs at the attacker as you rush him.
There was recently an incident on a train in France where a terrorist was overwhelmed by three very brave Americans. Had they not been willing to put their lives on the line, many more people may have been murdered. I have great admiration for the courage these young men displayed.