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newthinking

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24. Naw, there is no such thing as a non propagandized mass media outlet anymore
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:05 AM
Dec 2015

Until we either rebuild a mass media that is not corrupted by the MIC you have to use your head and pay attention to multiple sources. Including RT, which you can argue until you are blue. I would actually argue the opposite, that there is just as much, possibly more chance of the ideas of the progressives on RT spread the other way.

And I will also argue that RT, being one of the few places with the large set of progressive voices on a recognized media market, are doing a lot to keep progressive ideas out there.

I know that is difficult for cold warriors to get. If our own media was not so f*ched up then yes, there would be other avenues that might be better, but as it stands RT is no worse, and in fact in terms of the freedom of editorial interference it is a place where ideas can be put forward.

The argument you put forward reminds me of the short time I actually tried out an evangelical church. They would always say "the devil just wants to tempt you with something that looks OK, but he is sitting behind there ready to pounce on you at your weakest.
BWA-hahaha. Not

Hartmann et al will leave the minute should they try and editorialize the message. And so will the progressive audience.

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Did Thom Hartmann just hand his conscience to Vladimir Putin? 11cents Dec 2015 #1
You don't like the message right? But can't actually refute it so attack the mes sanger. nm rhett o rick Dec 2015 #3
I'm indifferent to the message. I have no connection or attachment to the Fed 11cents Dec 2015 #5
Progressives have a hard time finding corp-media that will carry their messages. Funny rhett o rick Dec 2015 #6
Oh horseshit. 11cents Dec 2015 #7
All major media corps are conservative and broadcast almost completely voices of conservatives. rhett o rick Dec 2015 #8
Again, look at all the other sources cited here. 11cents Dec 2015 #13
Naw, there is no such thing as a non propagandized mass media outlet anymore newthinking Dec 2015 #24
Thank you for your concern. Chef Eric Dec 2015 #34
Its corporate media.Corporate propaganda bjobotts Dec 2015 #25
And the corps love to support HRC. Why? It should be obvious. nm rhett o rick Dec 2015 #29
+1 stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #11
Yes. The election is over. Can we talk about something else now? Kittens? Atheism perhaps? Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #2
Saturday Debates are NO accident; and will result in the Dems losing the Presidential Election zebonaut Dec 2015 #4
It is not incompetence, per se SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick Dec 2015 #31
Thom I am a fan. But why associate with RT? I have heard they give you studio-space emulatorloo Dec 2015 #9
Bandwidth is expensive. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #12
Yes understood. Yet afaik Ring of Fire and TYT don't display the RT logo emulatorloo Dec 2015 #14
I think he is on linktv and freespeech, but it may just come down to the glitz of the studio and the LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #15
A tv production student w a Mac or PC can achieve pretty high production values emulatorloo Dec 2015 #16
Yea.. I don't hold anything against RT. The thing is everyone knows it is Russian. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #17
Yes, was a big DX'er too! Listened to news/commentary on all those stations! emulatorloo Dec 2015 #18
I like the music also and their perspective on the news of the day. elmac Dec 2015 #20
That is how I got the news in the 70's elmac Dec 2015 #19
Yes! You have an open mind and the right idea. maddiemom Dec 2015 #22
Oh, and also: maddiemom Dec 2015 #23
Agree with previous poster. Affiliating with a blatant propaganda instrument is shameful Bucky Dec 2015 #10
There are millions of Americans that are forced to work for a Boss or Company that they hate DhhD Dec 2015 #21
PSYOPS underthematrix Dec 2015 #26
RT, originally Russia Today, is a Russian government-funded television network still_one Dec 2015 #27
Thom, could you please include transcript or link to same? SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #28
Wow, just wow, unbelievable. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #32
Can thomhartman post a textual summary? jberryhill Dec 2015 #33
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