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51. There is not enough time left before the convention.

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:03 PM

Mar 2016

The campaign can stop dead in its tracks and try to overcome the screwups (mostly caused by the GOPukes) or continue continuing on. As adequately financed as Sanders' campaign is we will be better off concentrating on what lies ahead than straightening out what has happened.

As far as I know, after innumerable Presidential races starting with JFK, no election has ever been overturned by proofs of election fraud (and JFK's win in Chicago made anything happening in this campaign look like fuzzy bunnies and Disney Bluebirds.)

A challenge at the convention might do more for advancing the cause than fighting on two fronts. The Germans learned that in the 1940's. Gather evidence and so forth in case it can be important in Philadelphia but do not take the eye off the prize. If a few delegates from Idaho mean the train gets stuck in a sidetrack winning that fight will mean nothing.

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Bernie Sanders Must Contest Arizona & Stop Allowing the Theft Of Democratic Primary [View all] Bubzer Mar 2016 OP

Since Replublican Michele Reagan is Secretary of State in Arizona, he should have words with her. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #1

I would say that it should not be Bernie alone who stops jwirr Mar 2016 #2

you said it all and said it well jello Mar 2016 #3

The only question that should be asked is why Bernie's campaign failed pnwmom Mar 2016 #45

With many thousands of people standing for hours waiting to vote, Bernie is to blame Stevepol Mar 2016 #68

Yes. Part of getting out the vote is informing voters about HOW to vote, pnwmom Mar 2016 #70

But we don't have to make a request for our ballots jello Mar 2016 #96

What gets me is when Hillary supporters come off like they're looking forward to purging liberals. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #4

Dem's are liberals: and Dem's really are the big tent: No one wants purg anyone lewebley3 Mar 2016 #19

It'll be the rise of the DLC all over again. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #23

NO, its not: Obama has pulled the country out of the Crash: lewebley3 Mar 2016 #33

Obama has only delayed the upcoming BIG crash. yourout Mar 2016 #43

Wrong: Obama has lead the country well: Its only Hartman that is spreading lewebley3 Mar 2016 #56

It wasn't fixed becasue of the GOP: Obama and the Dem's have been lewebley3 Mar 2016 #107

Uh huh,...you don't think the message will be, "voters rejected Bernie's liberal ideas"? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #67

NO: liberal ideas are not rejected: but is Sanders not a leader lewebley3 Mar 2016 #108

Unlike Republicans, Democrats don't vote for a leader they can follow.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #109

Wrong: Democrats do vote for the leaders that Dem's can follow lewebley3 Mar 2016 #115

You define a "Dem" as "Hillary"..... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #116

Hillary is one of the leaders of Dem party: Its not confusing to a Dem: lewebley3 Mar 2016 #118

Obviously you believe it only goes back as far as the glorious 90s.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #124

No it goes back further than FDR: Hillary is the heir to FDR: She doesn't lewebley3 Mar 2016 #130

LOL!!! Can't wait for her fireside chats to Goldman Sachs. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #134

Hillary's fireside chat was peace and prosperity in 8 years she help govern lewebley3 Mar 2016 #138

Why don't you bring up his disloyalty for voting against NAFTA? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #140

Ha! jello Mar 2016 #97

You are confused with what Bush did: Bush bailled out the Banks:Not Obama lewebley3 Mar 2016 #106

DLC is left wing crazy ideologue stuff: The DLC was over 20years ago lewebley3 Mar 2016 #117

I must have missed the replacing of the _Leader_ part of the DLC. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #125

Bitter party of one Spitfire: Go Hillary and Dem: Say no to socialism lewebley3 Mar 2016 #127

People who are against socialism are anti-social.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #135

The first part of your reply is in error. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #112

No error: Dem are liberals: they are not socialist lewebley3 Mar 2016 #113

Actually the error is in assuming Dems are liberals.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #121

No: Dem are not socialist: they are Dem's: they believe in working and paying lewebley3 Mar 2016 #122

LOL!!! You believe "socialism" means "not working"? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #123

Sander socialism means free college: lewebley3 Mar 2016 #128

... and free college....is bad? Bubzer Mar 2016 #132

So? Reagan is the one that ended free college. Do you want to embrace his legacy? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #136

There was never free college: the tax payers paid: and Teachers didn't work lewebley3 Mar 2016 #137

Do you have any clue how weird that reply of yours was? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #139

Get Real DownriverDem Mar 2016 #55

.....self destructs again? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #69

It's still a race... Bucko... and it will continue, with or without your approval. Bubzer Mar 2016 #133

How does mail-in balloting purge liberals? It's all we use in WA and OR pnwmom Mar 2016 #61

Each state does things differently.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #72

I don't assume it's an option everywhere. I KNOW it's an option in Arizona pnwmom Mar 2016 #73

That is not the way most people vote in AZ. truckin Mar 2016 #74

They were not disenfranchised. The majority of voters requested mail-in ballots pnwmom Mar 2016 #78

Strongly disagree. If voting in a precinct is an option, voters don't expect to wait for 5 hours truckin Mar 2016 #83

Why would voters who voted by mail have been disenfranchised? pnwmom Mar 2016 #85

Would Republicans support Hillary if she would run on the Reoublican ticket? INdemo Mar 2016 #111

voter Supression yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #5

Mail-in ballots increase participation. They don't suppress it. n/t pnwmom Mar 2016 #62

No matter who, republican, Democrat of whatever strange hybrid of the two rigged the vote. Half-Century Man Mar 2016 #6

Very well-said, HCM. chapdrum Mar 2016 #87

YVW Half-Century Man Mar 2016 #89

Sanders is the ultimate whistle blower. jalan48 Mar 2016 #7

Go, Debbie, speak the truth to power...agreed 100% downeastdaniel Mar 2016 #8

Heard on public radio that AZ cut WAY back on the number of polling places.... Roland99 Mar 2016 #9

You can thank Scalia for that... tinrobot Mar 2016 #15

They didn't think they'd need them because they'd gone to a mail-in ballot pnwmom Mar 2016 #21

The lines, while awful, were not the only problem. PotatoChip Mar 2016 #71

Yes, after I wrote this I read about the other problems. pnwmom Mar 2016 #99

BUT jello Mar 2016 #98

Apparently Maricopa County went from 200 polling places in 2012 bjo59 Mar 2016 #64

It's time to put some money into and ask for some answers........................ turbinetree Mar 2016 #10

Here's the answer. The large majority of registered voters asked for mail in ballots -- pnwmom Mar 2016 #24

Exit polls do not count early voting RBenjaminson Mar 2016 #11

"fratricidal warfare"? You better redirect that statement to Her. She's the one playing dirty pool. Bubzer Mar 2016 #12

She's not the one who allowed AZ to reduce the number of polling places tinrobot Mar 2016 #14

She had nothing to do with this. if you want to blame a Democrat, blame Bernie pnwmom Mar 2016 #25

Ignore the woman behind the curtain! Got it. BYE! Bubzer Mar 2016 #30

Your conspiracy theory is just a cover for the campaign's major flub in GOTV. pnwmom Mar 2016 #34

nh had their shit together for this one redruddyred Mar 2016 #53

In a democracy jello Mar 2016 #100

Seems many folks who wanted to vote for Sanders did not know the rules. shucky darns. riversedge Mar 2016 #48

And where have all these voices been while Repukes have been Loki Mar 2016 #84

You just joined so you can tell us what to do? djean111 Mar 2016 #47

You think it's fine to insult new people for the crime of giving you correct information? pnwmom Mar 2016 #57

"save us from Trump and Cruz" redruddyred Mar 2016 #49

Welcome to DU, RBenjaminson. pnwmom Mar 2016 #58

Remarks by local reporters aggregated here; also, related wh.gov petition. proverbialwisdom Mar 2016 #13

Also, more information at this link: Bubzer Mar 2016 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author proverbialwisdom Mar 2016 #17

Why is it voter suppression to make voting the easiest with mail in ballots? pnwmom Mar 2016 #26

That's not the issue, see post #54. proverbialwisdom Mar 2016 #81

YOU DON'T GET IT jello Mar 2016 #101

You're right, it's not exactly the same. pnwmom Mar 2016 #103

Thanks for the links, proverbialwisdom. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #29

young voters didn't vote early dcbuckeye Mar 2016 #18

So they question is why didn't Bernie's campaign do a better job of educating pnwmom Mar 2016 #27

You misunderstand lmbradford Mar 2016 #54

Then why are people blaming Hillary or even Debbie for that? pnwmom Mar 2016 #60

Hillary one fair and square; as the poll showed she would lewebley3 Mar 2016 #20

If there was evidence of one vote stolen its still elettion theft. INdemo Mar 2016 #31

Hillary won by almost 18 points: Sanders didn't have a chance lewebley3 Mar 2016 #35

That's okay... hilly got STOMPED in Utah and Idaho!!! Bernie is gaining ground! Bubzer Mar 2016 #39

Hillary didn't campagin in Utah or Idaho; She need save her money for the general lewebley3 Mar 2016 #41

Hello? DownriverDem Mar 2016 #59

STOMPED! Ground into the dirt! Defeated! And it's only half time...hold onto your hat! Bubzer Mar 2016 #66

18 points? but how many votes were conviently lost that belonged to Bernie? INdemo Mar 2016 #110

I do Trust Debbie Wasserman: You are just not winning lewebley3 Mar 2016 #114

If you trust Debbie than you trust Karl Rove INdemo Mar 2016 #119

Sorry: but I don't trust Sander supporters: they are not Dems lewebley3 Mar 2016 #120

Just WTF are you talking about? INdemo Mar 2016 #126

No Bernie is a socialist: he is not a Dem: No Dem's have vote for him to be lewebley3 Mar 2016 #129

There isn't. There is much evidence however pnwmom Mar 2016 #37

If Debbie Wasserman Schultz would come forward and say INdemo Mar 2016 #22

Nah, she'll look into it! Phooey! Heard that tune before. n/t Paper Roses Mar 2016 #28

If Bernie's campaign came forward and said we should have done a better job pnwmom Mar 2016 #32

Disagree. Sanders needs to stay focused on upcoming states. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #36

Thank you for this SANITY.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #42

K&R zentrum Mar 2016 #38

Billary the real sore loser redruddyred Mar 2016 #46

"Billary." pnwmom Mar 2016 #65

Funny, it seems zentrum Mar 2016 #80

She was a top graduate, the valedictorian, of Wellesley College, pnwmom Mar 2016 #91

Yeah, and when she zentrum Mar 2016 #93

Are you just making this all up, or what? Because you've got the facts all wrong. pnwmom Mar 2016 #94

Well, see... zentrum Mar 2016 #95

all critics of Her are fersher SEXIST PIGS redruddyred Mar 2016 #90

wow obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #77

See my note down thread. zentrum Mar 2016 #82

Our "representative" Democracy has shifted from Counting Votes to NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #40

Bernie's campaign failed on GOTV. No conspiracy theory is necessary to explain pnwmom Mar 2016 #50

"It makes it much easier" alright. NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #52

We have fully verifiable paper ballots. We can go online and make sure pnwmom Mar 2016 #63

BTW. we got your point. You don't have to repeat it over and over. truckin Mar 2016 #75

I am replying to specific people. But your concern is noted. n/t pnwmom Mar 2016 #76

So glad you said that jello Mar 2016 #102

there are issues with mailin ballots as well redruddyred Mar 2016 #92

i'd love a transcript if you can manage it redruddyred Mar 2016 #44

There is not enough time left before the convention. mikehiggins Mar 2016 #51

whine, whine, whine... chillfactor Mar 2016 #79

When Bush was trying the steal the election from Bill Clinton... morningglory Mar 2016 #86

It's not about politesse; chapdrum Mar 2016 #88

Democrats prefer Hillary. There's plenty of evidence. Investigate that. LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #104

I disagree. This election isn't about a person... as numerous hilly supporters have said. Bubzer Mar 2016 #105

Unless he is in on it himself Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #131