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ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
86. Oh How True That Is... I Have Already Made That Decision
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:10 PM
Mar 2016

quite a few times here. I've been a Democrat for about 35-40 years and never was anything else. Depending on who is our nominee will determine whether I leave or not. What I've seen happen since Bill Clinton was first elected has been a steady turn to the right. It wasn't very noticeable at first, took a while and I remember getting up very, very early when I heard Bill was going to have a Rally at UF in Gainesville, FL. I took a friend along and we drove 5 hrs. to see him because I had been working to get him elected way back then.

There was a roped off area way down in front that was reserved for people who were involved in helping him but you had to have a special pass to get down there. I was pretty upset because I had driven so far to see him and I made it known to many around me. The MSM was there CNN and all the biggies back then were there because he had generated excitement. I managed to get someone to take pity on me and was given a pass but my I needed TWO because of my friend. I'm not sure if it was Connie Chung who worked at CNN or some other person that was well known who came to our rescue and turned to some other members and got me one. But I got TWO and we got down to the 2nd row right in front of where he was going to speak. Senator Bill Nelson spoke there that day and after the rally we saw his bus and I was so happy, then we drove back home.

I've ALWAYS remembered that day and remember him looking right at us as he spoke and I thought WOW that was great! I defended him during all the womanizing and so much more, but it wasn't until he was elected to his 2nd term that I began to really SEE the change. Still, back then there was Newt Gingrich so I stuck with him and Hillary too. I vividly remember Hillary wearing a pink outfit at a BIG DEAL press conference defending herself and what she had done when she worked at the law firm before she became First Lady. I defended BOTH of them back then too.

I'm posting about this because I've been among those who have been attacked and told I was one of the many who have infiltrated here to put her down. Obviously this is so far off the mark, but because I've learned so much about the Clintons over the years and especially the TWO FOR ONE COMMENT Bill made after he was elected I simply don't have any faith in them.

So many here say she can't be held accountable for what happened and the legislation that got passed when THEY were in the WH, but seeing Bill doing all he's done so far in her campaign that seems illegal to me, I DO think they support each other's views and have always done so.

Over these many years I became more and more upset by what I saw happening and it turned me off. So much so that I now see a person who I absolutely don't trust and feel in my gut that THEY will do whatever needs to be done to get elected. Say anything that's expedient depending on who they speak to. BUT even more distressing is the POWER that they now have, and that stepping on anyone's toes to get that POWER. I also know that even though they've been able to become so powerful that they've made many enemies and the "in the know" people are aware of what they can do. Even though it seems she's so beloved there's a shallowness in that support.

So here I am today after all these years and have seen what the beginning of the DLC/Third Way Democrats have given us. AND I DON'T LIKE IT and I will have an extremely hard time voting for her IF in the end I have to. But, I'm wavering on that and I FIND myself boxed in. I've had it! She doesn't fool me in any way, but I'm even more upset because what's on the other side may be so AWFUL that I have REAL FEAR.

I'll end by saying Frank & Claire Underwood, and I have seen all of the latest series. The ending of the last episode is really, really scary.
OK, went on for too long... but it is a true story and WHY I feel the way I do.

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Liked it on youtube Babel_17 Mar 2016 #1
All this time I never knew who Mollari was Ned_Devine Mar 2016 #14
Lol, thanks! Babel_17 Mar 2016 #18
You do remember what happened to Mollari RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #52
I was going to post some videos, but I'm trying to ration myself :) Babel_17 Mar 2016 #58
Was one of my favorite shows elljay Mar 2016 #59
K&R nenagh Mar 2016 #2
This is ELECTION fraud.. not VOTER fraud.. since annabanana Mar 2016 #3
Woops, it's not my story. I'll edit my OP to use quotation marks, and make a note of that Babel_17 Mar 2016 #4
Yup, that's the correct definition Babel_17 Mar 2016 #5
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #15
Got your new talking point did you? giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #28
Because cheating is so damn Hillaryarious LiberalLovinLug Mar 2016 #34
Oh I don't doubt dirty shit happened. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #36
It doesn't take an "Antichrist" to embrace fraud to win LiberalLovinLug Mar 2016 #37
Lol, guess you missed the whole lifelong dems having problems huh? giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #38
Funny how all of the election snafus in every state favor Clinton. Must be coincidental? nt GoneFishin Mar 2016 #48
STOP RIGHT THERE!!!! fun n serious Mar 2016 #66
As much as I like Bernie, and I am a fervent supporter, PatrickforO Mar 2016 #61
Like you I have been a Bernie supporter since day one... SkyDaddy7 Mar 2016 #74
This is driving me CRAZY! It's the difference between murder and suicide. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #79
My question zalinda Mar 2016 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be Mar 2016 #7
the provisional ballots do not have names on them do they? questionseverything Mar 2016 #27
They didn't pull up her ballot. They pulled up her voter registration. passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #44
There's a White House Petition re; AZ Voter/Election Fraud ... KPN Mar 2016 #8
Just signed it and posted on Facebook. n/t dixiegrrrrl Mar 2016 #9
I was already registered there, I logged in and signed it Babel_17 Mar 2016 #10
Thank you oldandhappy Mar 2016 #12
Signed and put on FB. Thanks for the post. oldandhappy Mar 2016 #13
Says I have to wait for an email verification. That'll probably appear after the deadline. nt valerief Mar 2016 #29
It's is in your inbox. The site auto-replies the link. Blue State Bandit Mar 2016 #45
Yes, it can take a minute or two Babel_17 Mar 2016 #51
It showed up a half hour later. (I had been checking for it every minute for 10+ minutes.) nt valerief Mar 2016 #54
Signed. Duppers Mar 2016 #32
over 60,000 now! nt Ilsa Mar 2016 #40
Now it's only 38,331 to go (check out the front page to see a new petition) Babel_17 Mar 2016 #42
I'm a proud signer of the petition already. Stevepol Mar 2016 #49
"Petition Closed This petition can no longer be signed." Babel_17 Mar 2016 #55
Did earlier/ 840high Mar 2016 #56
Only 4,586 Babel_17 Mar 2016 #75
2500 remaining and counting ( in what, 28-30 hours!) KPN Mar 2016 #81
Ding, ding, ding, 104,580! Babel_17 Mar 2016 #83
EPIC!!!! KPN Mar 2016 #85
Wonder if clinton cares as much about oldandhappy Mar 2016 #11
She can and should follow up withe the BOE in a week.. peace13 Mar 2016 #16
ELECTION FRAUD SandersDem Mar 2016 #17
This also happened to me. Emac Mar 2016 #19
Thank you very much for posting here Babel_17 Mar 2016 #21
Thank you. Emac Mar 2016 #25
Glad to have you posting... me b zola Mar 2016 #63
I wonder if her name was on Bernie's contact list prior to the data breach. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #20
exactly. hopemountain Mar 2016 #23
BINGO! Spitfire! The data breach! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #24
GOOD QUESTION! -none Mar 2016 #39
I didn't even think about that dana_b Mar 2016 #53
I have a file folder of her campaign mailers..... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #73
That is something to think about. jillan Mar 2016 #71
this also happened in the caucus in Iowa however PatrynXX Mar 2016 #22
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I Can Not Tell You HOW MANY ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #26
Wow, that's a horrible experience Babel_17 Mar 2016 #30
Yeah, I Got Long Winded, But I'm Really Fed Up! n/t ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #31
THIS, absolutely Positively THIS! -none Mar 2016 #41
Well, All I Can Say Is I DON'T UNDERSTAND Why... ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #64
Now I'm hoping this has a rebound effect Babel_17 Mar 2016 #33
Oh Hillary billhicks76 Mar 2016 #35
Stop pretending that this has anything to do with the Democratic primary. yardwork Mar 2016 #47
No One Pretending But You billhicks76 Mar 2016 #62
Mike Papantonio Commented About ALL THIS Voter Suppression Tonight ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #65
I Hope DWS Ends Up In Jail billhicks76 Mar 2016 #67
Had To Spend Most Of My Day Having Some Medical Tests, But ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #82
She Ruined The Party billhicks76 Mar 2016 #84
Oh How True That Is... I Have Already Made That Decision ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #86
Clintons Pushed Center To The Right billhicks76 Mar 2016 #87
"THERE IS A PROTEST AT THE COUNTY RECORDERS OFFICE AT 9:00am" Babel_17 Mar 2016 #43
Lawsuit time Warpy Mar 2016 #46
I agree WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2016 #50
In Arizona, the name you want for the reduced number of polling places is tblue37 Mar 2016 #60
Yes. 840high Mar 2016 #57
Please edit the post to 'election fraud', the voters did nothing wrong to commit fraud. ViseGrip Mar 2016 #68
If it's true that this fell disproportionately on voters who changed party affi. from indy to dem PoliticalMalcontent Mar 2016 #69
Wow! Thanks for posting. jillan Mar 2016 #70
From Crooks and Liars............. mrmpa Mar 2016 #72
Thanks for the heads-up Babel_17 Mar 2016 #76
Started a thread with the video of that, gave you credit for the heads-up of course :) Babel_17 Mar 2016 #78
That is so nice.......... mrmpa Mar 2016 #80
DU member Zorra suggested on another thread a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT against the state. blm Mar 2016 #77
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