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64. Bernie isn't a Third Way "New Democrat".

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:12 AM

Apr 2016

If this is what a Democrat is in the USA.... oops. There's many types of Democrats in the party. Some are called DINOs because their politics resemble Republican Lite, and often vote with the Republicans. Then you have people like Bernie Sanders and Angus King... Democrats in all but name but DIABN is a horrible acronym. Bernie joined the Democratic Party but came to be elected as an Independent and thus is identified as such in the Senate.

I look at the parallels between the US Democratic Party and the UK Labour Party. Both Bill Clinton and Tony Blair are considered proponents of "Third Way" politics..... Clinton with his "New Democrats" and Blair with "New Labour". Fast forward to the 2010s.... the leader of the UK Labour Party Jeremy Corbyn. ... his politics are more like "Old Labour".

Now Mr. Bernie Sanders has not been part of the Democratic Party establishment, but it doesn't mean that he has not espoused traditional Democratic Party principles. He is in some respects America's Jeremy Corbyn.

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The NY Daily News Hit Piece on Bernie EXPOSED! [View all] thomhartmann Apr 2016 OP

These negative tactics of hers are being done way to early! Her numbers are going down! ViseGrip Apr 2016 #1

Mirror image of her attacks on that kenyan muslin fellow. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #62

Except that the corporate media.... daleanime Apr 2016 #77

MAybe someone like John Oliver Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #141

It's been said before, but how sad is it.... daleanime Apr 2016 #143

YEah Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #147

Very very good point. truedelphi Apr 2016 #154

Didn't we all.... daleanime Apr 2016 #158

Sanders is exposing himself: he babbled like Sara Plain in that interview lewebley3 Apr 2016 #119

You are not telling the truth ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #120

Lewebley Wibly Apr 2016 #123

thanks ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #133

It is not a valid or smart strategy to ignore trolls like Lewebley: Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2016 #134

I do not understand why he has not been banned yet LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #148

Trolls that are on Clinton's side are immune. nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #178

He may have been talking above your head Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #142

Nothing is nuanced about the interview: Sander has never been held to account for his lewebley3 Apr 2016 #144

That's funny greiner3 Apr 2016 #162

I have a feeling you do too,in the park,in a trench coat. wendylaroux Apr 2016 #155

...... Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #164

This is what we call a lewebley ............... misrepresentation of the truth. I guess it must rhett o rick Apr 2016 #173

Your a bullshitter....birds of a feather Pauldg47 Apr 2016 #190

As well they should! Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #130

Hartman, another shill for Bernie. yeah, nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #172

smells like fear, panic, & hopemountain Apr 2016 #184

Same there as here JackInGreen Apr 2016 #2

Coordinated Brock super PAC talking points, David Brock's Big Lie strategy is still in play Dragonfli Apr 2016 #6

Sanders was exposed like Trump for an empty suit : and he has never been honest lewebley3 Apr 2016 #18

You're still here? OK, you are always good for a laugh and unique word salads please, continue nt Dragonfli Apr 2016 #24

It's like refrigerator poetry! frylock Apr 2016 #39

colonic, too, rather than semi-colonic. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #65

Back in the early 90s, I had a DOS program that I ran on an old 8088. bvar22 Apr 2016 #136

Wow, I wrote something similar in basic on my old 8086 Machine Dragonfli Apr 2016 #139

Most interesting... there's a hidden post in this thread with the most bizarre syntax and usage... klook Apr 2016 #204

I keep this one beltanefauve Apr 2016 #150

Where are you playing next week? Fuddnik Apr 2016 #27

That's the funniest thing I've read today! Duval Apr 2016 #89

Who do you think you're helping? Wibly Apr 2016 #127

Is that supposed to be some sort of RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #128

Whether this is a lie or not, this does not meet the definition of the "Big Lie" ToxMarz Apr 2016 #35

I thing he includes the big part quite often and so I disagree. /nt Dragonfli Apr 2016 #45

Right. Oh the trumpets do sound. Lots of noise. But very few are falling for it. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #167

yes. the big lie will hopemountain Apr 2016 #186

This is why Net Neutrality is Enemy #1 for the corporate welfare state. klook Apr 2016 #202

^^+1k^^ nt hopemountain Apr 2016 #187

All coordinated with the Clinton talking points and "disqualify" strategy. FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #3

No.strategy: Sanders exposed himself for the fraud he has always been lewebley3 Apr 2016 #21

Spelling test failed...again Fuddnik Apr 2016 #25

Wow, up to eight hides. eggplant Apr 2016 #71

Sanders people do run things on this board : lewebley3 Apr 2016 #76

Except for that pesky fact that Skinner is an avowed Hillary supporter. eggplant Apr 2016 #125

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #145

So funny. Sanders voter & lifelong Democrat like my family for 100+ years. Try more. appalachiablue Apr 2016 #146

Jeb Bush and Antonin Scalia put George W. Bush in office; Diebold kept him there in 2004. Zen Democrat Apr 2016 #149

I remember the bashing of Gore form Sanders voters: They were to good for lewebley3 Apr 2016 #151

Sorry, no more replies for you. eggplant Apr 2016 #157

What a mind!!! You remember things that never happened!!!! Fuddnik Apr 2016 #181

Do any Sanders supporters have 8 hides? nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #174

For Pete's sake....criticize Bernie all you want, but don't use lies to do it. Punkingal Apr 2016 #88

Sanders. does lie: the honesty thing is just propaganda from his campaign. : It was not true lewebley3 Apr 2016 #113

There is something wrong with you. Punkingal Apr 2016 #131

It's something alright. Stryder Apr 2016 #161

It seems to be some kind of gibberish program. anothergreenbus Apr 2016 #176

Hillary is running short on money, and they outsourced these guys to overseas telemarketers. Fuddnik Apr 2016 #182

We are the goon squad & we're coming to town..beeb beeb... AlbertCat Apr 2016 #97

Hi beeb - I have to 840high Apr 2016 #108

I just came here to post this vid, listening to it as I type, 5 mins in. Watch it DUers! RiverLover Apr 2016 #4

Thank you for the video Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #5

Keep it up Hillary... SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #7

Yes Hillary - steady as she goes! Plucketeer Apr 2016 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #103

Maybe he could just not answer their questions like a moron?? Gomez163 Apr 2016 #8

Just like a good Republican padfun Apr 2016 #9

Nope. Also too. Bernie is not a Democrat Gomez163 Apr 2016 #10

Yes he is. padfun Apr 2016 #13

He has not joined the party Gomez163 Apr 2016 #17

What does it take to join the party other than checking a box on a form? frylock Apr 2016 #42

What do you have to do to sus453 Apr 2016 #43

you forgot the triple secret password, the secret handshake ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #67

Ahh yes, sus453 Apr 2016 #81

No, that one requires massive donations to a foundation. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #84

... 840high Apr 2016 #109

Bull puckies. You don't know what you are talking about. merrily Apr 2016 #104

There's labels, and there's policies. Rilesome Apr 2016 #122

Last I checked, he is in every Democratic primary--your statement is bullshit! TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #198

Bernie isn't a Third Way "New Democrat". mwooldri Apr 2016 #64

Another absolutely HUGE lie, Bernie has always caucused with the Democrats! Bernie is a Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #165

He is a better Democrat than Clinton. Remember when Bush summoned her and she gladly rhett o rick Apr 2016 #179

And I'm calling Bernie a moron, because Gomez163 Apr 2016 #12

Hillary answers lots of her question like a moron padfun Apr 2016 #14

So now technically you're a republican for calling Gomez163 Apr 2016 #15

Hillary is NOT a progressive padfun Apr 2016 #29

Absolutely she is. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #52

Absolutely she is. AlbertCat Apr 2016 #102

Progressive compared to... Herself. dchill Apr 2016 #170

OK I usually never use this smiley but its appropriate LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #156

Hillary? Progressive??? Who's the moron now, Gomez! hint: look in the mirror. FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #135

Hillary would have blabbered on and on and on filibustering the question. frylock Apr 2016 #47

Hillary couldn't answer the questions. dogman Apr 2016 #78

Hillary is a crook. Period. 840high Apr 2016 #110

Hil is no-party. disndat Apr 2016 #114

Spelling: it's moran! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #166

Ace An Interview? PCPrincess Apr 2016 #185

If Hillary is so smart and honest have her release the transcripts of her speeches to the Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #197

Agreed: Sanders didn't know how to break up banks and thats his central issue lewebley3 Apr 2016 #28

Except that he actually does and explained it in the interview me b zola Apr 2016 #57

Barney Frank: said Sanders doesn't have clue when he talks about the banks lewebley3 Apr 2016 #59

Still does not make it true. me b zola Apr 2016 #69

Sorry. Sanders was exposed he doesn't understand Dodd Frank: Frank says doesn't lewebley3 Apr 2016 #94

Frank is not unbiased, since he has endorsed Sanders' opponent. Qutzupalotl Apr 2016 #159

Maybe he could just not answer their questions like a moron?? AlbertCat Apr 2016 #99

They quote him in full & in context - so of course it has to be a "hit piece". baldguy Apr 2016 #11

They can't conceive their hero has feet of clay. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #16

And when is the last time Hillary sus453 Apr 2016 #46

She talks directly to the voters not to the press swine Gomez163 Apr 2016 #54

as in, not people who might ask and perchance sus453 Apr 2016 #60

The same press you are using... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #75

Voters you say? TM99 Apr 2016 #137

All the experts agreed with what he said. It was just the idiots that thought he stumbled. Did rhett o rick Apr 2016 #175

Juan Gonz�lez Was at Bernie Sanders' NY Daily News Editorial Board Meeting. What Really Happened? deutsey Apr 2016 #19

Failed to answer basic questions one his central promise to break up lewebley3 Apr 2016 #32

I trust Gonzalez and his account... deutsey Apr 2016 #37

Your presence here is all the proof anyone needs of the state of the Clinton campaign concreteblue Apr 2016 #82

"...we all new...."?? Except, of course, for all . . . Petrushka Apr 2016 #193

We watched that. Thanks!! Duval Apr 2016 #90

thank you Thom florida08 Apr 2016 #20

The Daily News is a suburban Long Island, i.e., Republican, news outlet. closeupready Apr 2016 #22

Not unlike the Southern states, Hillary Supporter now loves them some NYDN. frylock Apr 2016 #50

When I was growing up in NY elljay Apr 2016 #111

In addition, I've noticed over the last year or so they are aping the Daily Mail, closeupready Apr 2016 #112

Daily News has a GREAT comic section! dorkzilla Apr 2016 #160

Very hard to find a way Thespian2 Apr 2016 #23

Sanders fraudulent lies about the just got up with him: he sounded like Plain lewebley3 Apr 2016 #33

Your posts are painful to read on so many levels. frylock Apr 2016 #51

Your post are the same for me: but like Sanders you are about you lewebley3 Apr 2016 #55

Like I said... frylock Apr 2016 #58

It's like talking to a really poorly constructed AI. Getting funnier all the time. navarth Apr 2016 #92

This one doesn't seem to be learning though. frylock Apr 2016 #95

I wish these trolls would try harder. Bernie needs the practice for the GE. navarth Apr 2016 #106

Unfortunately it's an actual living being. svpadgham Apr 2016 #194

yes, he's a plain talker... not sure what ABC news interview you're talking about Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #98

it shows the power of the media to swiftboat. k and r. bbgrunt Apr 2016 #26

Were it not for the internet Plucketeer Apr 2016 #38

Her and the msm Rilesome Apr 2016 #126

Maybe this chap should be running instead of Bernie? Amimnoch Apr 2016 #31

Maybe you missed it Madam Mossfern Apr 2016 #36

I listened to him read it. Amimnoch Apr 2016 #40

Does it have to be "exciting?" Madam Mossfern Apr 2016 #74

Sanders couldn't explain any rhing about the banks he supposed to know everything about lewebley3 Apr 2016 #41

Rhings are on the endangered species list. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #68

The more Hi11ary and her chervilant Apr 2016 #34

Hillary is known to everyone: its Sanders fraud that is being exposed: lewebley3 Apr 2016 #48

She sure is. frylock Apr 2016 #53

and what would that "fraud" be? sus453 Apr 2016 #63

Meth is a terrible drug. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #66

Fraudulentt promises catching up on Sanders: is hard! lewebley3 Apr 2016 #73

Symptoms of meth include poor spelling, overusage of hyperbole Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #86

Sanders was not. vetted:so now things are coming out lewebley3 Apr 2016 #91

Other symptoms include shaky grasp of reality. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #116

I'm laughing harder than I should d_legendary1 Apr 2016 #138

really the fact that the NYDN's owner Mort Zuckerman has quite lavishly lined Clinton's war chest azurnoir Apr 2016 #44

Here it is in a graphic NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #49

knr sus453 Apr 2016 #61

Shame. You still used too many big words. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #70

Many of their words are scripted anyway so NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #72

that cover is shameful Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #101

...! KoKo Apr 2016 #206

Quelle surprise! Another dishonest talking point from the Clinton campaign. (N/T) Old Crow Apr 2016 #56

As I said many times, increased media attention is a mixed blessing. pnwmom Apr 2016 #79

If Bernie messes up, then negative attention is fair. But if it's manufactured berni_mccoy Apr 2016 #118

Most of the attacks against HRC have been manufactured. The Rethugs have targeted pnwmom Apr 2016 #153

Watching the first part, you could understand where her dishonesty kicked in nolabels Apr 2016 #87

THANK YOU THOM HARTMANN!!!!! KPN Apr 2016 #80

He's a Bernie shill because he is rich and comfortable Gomez163 Apr 2016 #117

Lol! KPN Apr 2016 #140

Clinton gets the support of those earning more than $100K/year n/t eridani Apr 2016 #200

Looks like you about doubled your post count in this thread. beerandjesus Apr 2016 #203

The irony EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #83

Bernie Sanders a formal Democrat since 2015, but he caucused before then only with the Dems and was Akamai Apr 2016 #85

KnR nt chknltl Apr 2016 #93

the media elites are proud of themselves for knocking off Trump, now they are going Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #96

It was not a hit piece - it was a really in depth conversation covering many topics oberliner Apr 2016 #100

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #105

This Citizen Has Lost All Respect For HRC cantbeserious Apr 2016 #107

I'm glad to see this. polly7 Apr 2016 #115

K and R nt Rebkeh Apr 2016 #121

She makes me fucking sick with this shit lastone Apr 2016 #124

You just keep spinning there, it's doing wonders for your in the popular vote synergie Apr 2016 #129

While we are talking about surrogates rynestonecowboy Apr 2016 #196

Kick imagine2015 Apr 2016 #132

Nothing to expose. We heard Sanders taped words for ourselves. Sanders was clueless. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #152

LOL. Well those that didn't understand him are clueless. The experts all agree with what rhett o rick Apr 2016 #177

Hilli is blowing it! Keep smearing Hilli, you lose! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #163

Am I the only one that thinks that Brock & Corporation do not understand social media? jillan Apr 2016 #168

What in the world is with the obsession with David Brock? NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #169

Yeah, he is a real saint. Jackilope Apr 2016 #180

Never said, or thought, he was a saint. NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #191

Thom is so rational. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #171

We need to thank the Daily News for giving Sanders the hard test. He passed with flying colors. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #183

K & R ~ hopemountain Apr 2016 #188

K&R Change has come Apr 2016 #189

nothing like the Daily News outting itself as the Readers Digest of News PatrynXX Apr 2016 #192

Let�s Dispel Once and for All With This Fiction That Sanders Doesn�t Know How to Break Up Banks Petrushka Apr 2016 #195

You do realize there is. Verbatim transcript in Bernie's own words BainsBane Apr 2016 #199

you realise EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #201

Whether you believe me or Clinton doesn't matter BainsBane Apr 2016 #207

You are a conspiracy theorist that has lost all credibility. boston bean Apr 2016 #205

wth... dana_b Apr 2016 #210

Get over it. There is nothing wrong with debunking an MSM hit piece. senz Apr 2016 #208

I'm sorry you do not like my site. William769 Apr 2016 #209