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ViseGrip

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39. Something WAS DONE, WE BUSTED OUR ASS! It was called HR811
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:58 PM
Apr 2016

The bill was sponsored by Rep. Rush Holt of N.J., to have states using electronic voting equipment, to conduct an audit of 3% of precincts. This is done by hand counting paper ballots in precincts, and comparing to the electronic totals. That would ensure approximately 68-70% of vote accuracy. You know the winner. Three percent does not cause the states to hire more help to conduct these audits. It's hard to get a mandate across the board if it cost the local municipalities more money.

What happened to this bill? This bill was so popular on DU, that is where it grew it's legs across the country. So....the elite were wondering WTF was going on and what was driving this bill?

They heard, well it's Florida! They had touchscreen voting machines, election anomalies everywhere, every every election since 2002 after the 2000 mess, still had NO paper trail!!

So....the powers to be had the Florida governor hurry up and give them back their paper ballots, to be 'scanned, as the rest of the states'. Remember, these ballots with chads and electronic voting machines went to the democratic counties, that STILL had a VOTER VERIFIED PAPER BALLOT. Now gone.

The fight is not finished in Florida though. I'm afraid the Governor Charlie Crist, who was a republican and now running as a DEM for congress, gave the voters their paper, but put in the statue that the audit would be a 'post certification audit', of 1-2% of precincts. (not enough, only verifying 46-48% of the vote! They do this AFTER they announce a winner and CERTIFY IT. THEN THEY CHECK THE VOTE!) But, it's just a dog and pony show, it's not even checking enough precincts, only verifying 46-489% if the vote!)

Then Charlie Crist changed the states 100 year recount of 1% needed, to 1/10 of 1%. That ensures you pay for your own recount.

The statute is something like this: The State will certify the electronic totals, and the paper ballots WILL BE STORED FOR RECOUNT PURPOSES ONLY! Then he narrowed the recount window for candidates. He put in 1-2% when we needed three to BE SURE THE ELECTION IS TRUE. It's a fucking audit! So the voting machines and methods are the same. Nothing has changed.

But don't make OP's with assumptions that nothing was done, and the sour grape people whine, and don't do anything. Democrats in the house fought this! The guy they got to put the screws to FLA is not running as a fucking democrat, for congress. After he signed the bill giving back the paper, that was the sexy part of our work, and everyone went away, as I knew would happen. It can be fixed but only county by county in that state. We went to lobby in DC, we did hacking demos for house members. Yeah, that's our work. The hero of our group, he still testifies in court challenges, is an elections officers in Leon County Fla. He's an independent. He wanted to PROGRAM HIS OWN MEMORY CARD, AGAINST OUR FEDERAL LAW. You, me, our electeds are not allowed to look at the software, to make sure it's programmed to count correctly. He refused the pre programmed memory cards, and they threatened him with jail! He held his wrists out, and they decided instead of letting every know what it's about (vote counting software), don't arrest him and make noise, and let him have his cards. So....they're having real elections. in Leon County FL. Then Sarasota County had one of the great activists who led a petition for her county to have a FIVE PERCENT AUDIT! HA! Fuck the 3%! The sigs got it on the ballot and it PASSED! They are also having fair elections verified too. Too bad it's a republican county! They signed the petition and voted for it though. So, if we could just get to the democratic counties. But it's a lot of work. Florida got their ballot, but it's not counted yet. It's still the same electronic tabulation, and the 'vendor software is proprietary information'. We're tired after all these years. But nope, nothing has been done. California took care of the problem back then. Susan Davis and Zoe Loftgren. Heroes. But dems win there overwhelmingly. But, they still check the vote!

So here is the history, after the Conyers Committe in Oh, and the hearing in 2007, nothing was done. Feinstein sent her aide at the senate bldg to 'meet us out of the office' in the bldg. and this guy acted shit scared to meet us, when we gave them the DVD of the hack test, they missed. Also scared....was Tubb Jones, who was later found dead on the side of the road. Heart attack or something. It's all bad. But the people have done so much to fight this. Understand every cycle voters die, and new voters register. How many cycles since this work? With Obama we had 8 years of not worrying about the election, but worrying more about his conservative policies, and his constant capitulation to the republicans. So it looks to me they install whoever they want. who will continue their agenda, not ours.

Here we go with Hillary. Who are these people. Does Bernie Sanders actually have to put a 'fracking ban' on the democrat platform?
And why did the media build up Trump and get rid of anyone actually qualified and then turn around and smear him? To leave nothing in Hillary's way? I see all the ways they make it look like we're having an election. And this one is the most telling, of all to this day.

http://www.votetrustusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=4&id=36&Itemid=371

So there ya go! A little more history, you could have found right here on DU!

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Is this the man that died in a small plane crash or am I confusing whistleblowers? Mnemosyne Jul 2015 #1
I believe you're thinking of Michael Connell... Mr_Jefferson_24 Jul 2015 #2
A FLA Dept. of Transportation investigator was apparently suicided. Peace Patriot Jul 2015 #6
spoke with clint ellennelle Jul 2015 #27
When was this testimony? Recent?? n/t napi21 Jul 2015 #3
Not recent. Mr_Jefferson_24 Jul 2015 #4
WHY? (Please see Reply 7) merrily Jul 2015 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author elleng Jul 2015 #5
Was this Waxman's committee, circa 2007? If so, I remember the coverage at the time. merrily Jul 2015 #7
That Dem leadership didn't address this in early 2009 is, IMHO, damning. Scuba Jul 2015 #11
Let's just say bipartisanship can be carried a tad too far for this American voter. merrily Jul 2015 #12
What in the fuck is going on with this country? Enthusiast Jul 2015 #23
That Dem leadership did not address the 2000 election thief or the 2004 election thief rhett o rick Jul 2015 #35
Very good question. Mr_Jefferson_24 Jul 2015 #16
I think we can do something about this one. merrily Jul 2015 #17
I'm embarrassed to say I didn't know Boston... Mr_Jefferson_24 Jul 2015 #19
Nothing to be embarrassed about. I have no clue which places have paper ballots, other than my own. merrily Jul 2015 #21
I agree. Especially with the following. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #24
After the Democratic Party acquired a majority I found it incredulous that Enthusiast Jul 2015 #22
karennj, perhaps Kerry's biggest supporter on this board, once posted that his people thought he merrily Jul 2015 #25
Very puzzling indeed. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #26
How can we go about doing this?........... imari362 Apr 2016 #38
I don't recall ever feeling more frustrated... Mr_Jefferson_24 Jul 2015 #29
That was a low point. Unfortunately nothing has changed. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #30
Something WAS DONE, WE BUSTED OUR ASS! It was called HR811 ViseGrip Apr 2016 #39
WOWZA. Where to begin? merrily Apr 2016 #41
My interview with a Diebold whistleblower on how they stole elections: Liberty Belle Jul 2015 #9
+1 Good reminder that losing voting machines is something we can work for on state and local levels. merrily Jul 2015 #13
I think you're right. This is a problem... Mr_Jefferson_24 Jul 2015 #20
The fact that at least a few upper level execs... Mr_Jefferson_24 Jul 2015 #18
The real division is between the HAVES and HAVE-NOTS, not between Republicans and Democrats. GoneFishin Jul 2015 #10
Yes. And this why I think of people who bray about Nader and "Lefties" costing elections djean111 Jul 2015 #14
Yeah, but Lamont probably would have voted with the Democratic Caucus. merrily Jul 2015 #15
^^^ THIS ^^^ cantbeserious Jul 2015 #37
Put the programmer to the test, voting machines have been tested in the past and the person was Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #28
yep Jess25 Jul 2015 #31
Welcome to DU Jess25 Mr_Jefferson_24 Jul 2015 #32
Why is it not illegal . . . markpkessinger Jul 2015 #33
Because the vendor's software code is proprietary vendor information. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #40
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #34
Looking at this thread, Sen Sander's supporters are more interested in this rhett o rick Jul 2015 #36
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