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61. If you mean Gore, different sources say different things about whether he won the popular vote.

Sun May 1, 2016, 01:13 AM

May 2016

However, if you post on DU that he won the popular vote, someone is likely to reply--"But Nader made it close enough to steal." Well, maybe Gore made it close enough to steal, too. It was Gore's job to win, and Democrats' job to make sure Gore won, not the job of Nader and people who voted for Nader to make sure Gore won. So, whether Gore won the popular vote or not, Gore should have been a better candidate and Democrats should have been better supporters of Gore. I am so tired of anti-democratic whining about Nader.

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Ralph Nader On The Rise of Bernie [View all] thomhartmann Apr 2016 OP

I have no respect for 2naSalit Apr 2016 #1

Over 300,000 Democrats voted for Bush zalinda Apr 2016 #2

Nader made a huge difference in the state. He didn't just control a SINGLE vote, pnwmom Apr 2016 #16

No, he didn't cost Gore the election. SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #30

I challenge you to listen to it Plucketeer Apr 2016 #5

I have complete respect for Ralph Nader CobaltBlue Apr 2016 #7

I believe the words he used for President Obama were "Uncle Tom". N/T sweetloukillbot Apr 2016 #9

Wasn�t that� CobaltBlue Apr 2016 #11

Maybe also, but Nader did on one of the news stations on election night 08 sweetloukillbot Apr 2016 #12

...And? n/t TIME TO PANIC Apr 2016 #15

So are you agreeing with his racist description of President Obama? sweetloukillbot Apr 2016 #18

No, I think Obama is a true believer in neo-liberalism. TIME TO PANIC Apr 2016 #19

So it's okay to use a racist term against the first African American president if he is a sellout sweetloukillbot Apr 2016 #20

No, I don't think Nader is a racist, and I don't think he meant that term in a racist way. n/t TIME TO PANIC Apr 2016 #21

Non racist way? sweetloukillbot Apr 2016 #22

So you think Ralph Nader is a racist. I don't. TIME TO PANIC Apr 2016 #23

The evidence was on national TV. When confronted on it he doubled down. sweetloukillbot Apr 2016 #25

I am troubled by your obsession with finding ways to say the phrase "Uncle Tom" Fairgo Apr 2016 #27

I find people willing to defend the use of a racist term on a Democratic site disturbing sweetloukillbot Apr 2016 #28

I find your obsession with being disturbed disturbing Fairgo Apr 2016 #35

Since you're so willing to defend racial slurs sweetloukillbot Apr 2016 #37

I also find your assumption of omnipotence and omniscience Fairgo Apr 2016 #40

He was out of touch, no doubt about it. TIME TO PANIC Apr 2016 #31

Then he should have said "Whoops, I fucked up" sweetloukillbot Apr 2016 #32

Yes, he shouldn't have let his ego get the best of him. n/t TIME TO PANIC Apr 2016 #39

Did you vote for him in 2000? Loki Apr 2016 #54

I voted for Gore, Nader wasn't on the NC ballot in 2000. TIME TO PANIC Apr 2016 #56

Sanders is not a traditional liberal shenmue Apr 2016 #43

Depends on your definition. SusanCalvin May 2016 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author yuiyoshida Apr 2016 #10

Sure, don't blame the Right, blame the Left. TIME TO PANIC Apr 2016 #14

I do blame Bush. Specifically, JEB! SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #50

well he gained it back after the bullies this year PatrynXX Apr 2016 #36

There's more than "the electoral process" at stake in a participatory democracy. Petrushka Apr 2016 #46

He couldn't have foreseen 2000. Who could have? SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #52

I have the greatest respect for the work Nader did. His comments in the last 5 or so years though merrily Apr 2016 #3

He did win the popular vote PatrynXX Apr 2016 #38

He also won Florida and therefore the election, SCOTUS to the contrary. nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #51

If you mean Gore, different sources say different things about whether he won the popular vote. merrily May 2016 #61

This sounds like a promising idea. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #4

I have a great deal of respect for Ralph Nadar... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #6

Brilliant ideas. America sorely underestimates this man. Gregorian Apr 2016 #8

No thanks. johnp3907 Apr 2016 #13

Nader makes establishment hacks uneasy. nt TIME TO PANIC Apr 2016 #17

Nader is a hack shenmue Apr 2016 #44

No, he's not. SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #49

Great interview. Thanks for posting. CanSocDem Apr 2016 #24

Thanks for the insight Fairgo Apr 2016 #26

I have zero interest in any of Nader's political opinions. nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #29

Why? n/t TIME TO PANIC Apr 2016 #33

When a Democrat loses, you have to blame someone other than the candidate. eom zalinda Apr 2016 #34

and the blame always points to the left. TIME TO PANIC Apr 2016 #41

I am aware it was stolen and not by Nader. SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #42

No, I blame the Florida Republicans and the SCOTUS. nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #48

Because he ran for president as a spoiler, even though I don't believe he cost anyone an election. SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #45

He was trying to get out a message. zalinda May 2016 #58

I completely understand. SusanCalvin May 2016 #59

Thank you for the link. Please see . . . Petrushka Apr 2016 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #53

I like his ideas about the "civic marathon." Ad hominems can't diminish this man's ideas. ancianita Apr 2016 #55

Thank you for the summary. SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #57

Hey Ralphie Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2016 #62