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Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
30. Excellent commentary! And excellent clip of Jon Stewart!
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:01 AM
May 2016

With Clinton, there is no there there.

It was Gertrude Stein who said that--"there is no there there"--when she was on a return visit to the Bay Area, and was looking for her childhood home in Oakland, CA, a home with lots of acreage, lawns and gardens, surrounded by orchards and farms. It was now covered over with new homes. The "there" of her childhood home was gone.

Clinton is not rooted to any place. She is not OF any place or its people or its critters. She is a transglobal jet setter who now hangs with people like Bush, Kissinger and Trump. She is, like them, now, a multi-billionaire. The 1% has made her and she is a member of their global non-country with loyalty to no one but this sky-born royalty that touches down on earth for business, luxury recreation and sketching out their plans, such as "The Project For a New American Century."

No there there. There is nothing to be discovered there of high ideals, of democratic principles, of good government, though quite a bit of substance can be found there, of greed and mass murder. But evil empties the soul, in the end.

I believed for awhile, through Bill Clinton's administration anyway, that as a citizen of a country doing evil in the world, it was perhaps best to have clever, wily, corrupt people running things, so long as they had some loyalty, some minimal feeling of obligation, to the rest of us, and provided some sops to us, like little incremental raises to the minimum wage. 25 cents an hour can mean a lot to the very poor. Simple, honest people couldn't handle the "Beltway" snake pit. It took the corrupt to handle the corrupt. It's also called "the lesser of two evils." But I mean a bit more than this. I mean the "lesser evil" needs to be smart and a real maneuverer and wheel-dealer and con man. Clinton was all of those things, so I voted for him (not having any choice), thinking of that 25 cents an hour more for the poorest of the poor.

I considered this thought about Hillary Clinton. While Bernie Sanders is far from simple, as an intellect, he does like simple living and is as honest as the clear blue sky. Could he snake his way through the vipers' nest of Washington DC, to get anything done? Could he survive it, let alone reform it? Hillary Clinton has these wily, conniving qualities I'm talking about. I could even maybe (maybe!) forgive her kissing Kissinger and begging from Bush donors, or at least put my scruples aside, if I thought she could become a good ruler--a sort of Queen Elizabeth I to Bill's 25 cents an hour presidency.

But I don't think she can. I think she has the soul of a corrupt and power-hungry courtier, not of a true monarch who actually loves her people. I think the connection--the 25 cents an hour connection--has been broken. No more sops to the poor. Greed for power and money have consumed her and her associates in the sky-born kingdom. They are going to inflict their final blows to our democracy, using her as their tool. We are going to see Social Security privatized and what little social safety net we have ripped from us. Our very sovereignty as a people will be shredded by TPP.

Her soul is empty--no there there. She is only interested in her own power in that uber circle. I may be wrong. She may be wily enough to disguise her own soul. Maybe she has some home that it would break her heart not to be able to find again. But my strong sense is that there isn't.

As for Bernie, I've grown strongly to believe that he is wiliest old guy who ever sat on a House subcommittee, and has somehow kept himself rooted to a place, Vermont, and to his ideals. He is best the leader we have ever been given a chance to vote for. And he will survive it, and he will reform it, with--as he requires--our help.

The weird thing EdwardBernays May 2016 #1
I'm so old I remember 840high May 2016 #16
Expressed my sentiments exactly RufusTFirefly May 2016 #21
It's Authoritarian Adulation. nm rhett o rick May 2016 #42
missing Jon emsimon33 May 2016 #2
Me too beltanefauve May 2016 #8
Stopped watching after Trevor didn't improve emsimon33 May 2016 #18
I love Trevor. Android3.14 May 2016 #36
I have an all-encompassing descriptor Plucketeer May 2016 #3
Spot on. n/t chervilant May 2016 #4
Covers... kadaholo May 2016 #6
Perfect. 840high May 2016 #17
It's telling that some of the people who know her best ... RufusTFirefly May 2016 #28
Jon Stewart sees the same thing we see. senz May 2016 #5
I see it, and I wonder also. Duval May 2016 #7
Olbermann Joe Shlabotnik May 2016 #11
Perfect! nt Plucketeer May 2016 #15
Oh my, passiveporcupine May 2016 #19
Bill wasn't all bad for her....if she overlooked his "flaws" virtualobserver May 2016 #20
She didn't overlook his "flaws" arikara May 2016 #40
Clinton has a well connected clique of friends... JPnoodleman May 2016 #25
K&R Joe Shlabotnik May 2016 #9
damn jon. retrowire May 2016 #10
This guy names zentrum May 2016 #12
Right around the :15 mark is where Jon Stewart got banned from the Hillary Clinton group. Gene Debs May 2016 #13
OK, that was funny! passiveporcupine May 2016 #22
She's 100% politician 100% of the time mountain grammy May 2016 #14
It'll help me if she'd show them from time to time. Nyan May 2016 #23
You can't redeem sending children back into a war zone. Kalidurga May 2016 #27
OH I've Tried Not To Comment Here... But ChiciB1 May 2016 #24
I agree with Jon Stewart. There is no there to Hillary Clinton. JDPriestly May 2016 #26
Big ole bag of NOPE. Flatpicker May 2016 #29
Excellent commentary! And excellent clip of Jon Stewart! Peace Patriot May 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author carolinayellowdog May 2016 #44
This should be an OP. Nyan May 2016 #45
Who the f&@k is that guy? Canoe52 May 2016 #31
Google him if you're curious. Nyan May 2016 #33
Of course I googled him, silly person, Canoe52 May 2016 #41
If I knew where she actually stood on the issues it'd be much easier to vote for her. PoliticalMalcontent May 2016 #32
Jon has it right as usual. BillZBubb May 2016 #34
Oh, why is the Hill like this? Dunno. This not only saddens me, but makes me just sick. However, downeastdaniel May 2016 #35
Kicked and recommended! I agree with everything he said. Enthusiast May 2016 #37
The frustrating part is that we sorely need a female president - TBF May 2016 #38
Time for HRC people to throw Jon Stewart under the bus. Feeling the Bern May 2016 #39
I think they've thrown everyone that dares speak truth to power, under the bus years ago. rhett o rick May 2016 #43
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