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Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
7. Oh, how I wish...
Fri May 13, 2016, 05:16 PM
May 2016

that we could have 'free, fair, and honest' elections in the U.S. But, it ain't gonna happen.

Free? State after state has passed laws making it more and more difficult (and costly) for the poor to vote - all in the name of 'preventing voter fraud' when, in reality the laws are designed to benefit the rich (Republicans) and to keep the poor (Democrats) from voting.

Fair? Just look at recent elections where the rich don't have to wait to vote because there are plenty of precincts and plenty of voting stations, while precincts are eliminated and it takes hours and hours of standing in line in pro districts.

Honest? LOL. When it looked like Al Gore was going to win Florida, suddenly new votes turned up from 'late precincts' to change the election results. When Gov Walker looked like he would be recalled, suddenly votes were 'found' to change the results and, coincidentally, just enough votes to prevent an automatic recount. But, since voting irregularities are investigated by the winners, the winners don't have any incentive to discover that they were actually the losers.

Voting machines? Don't make me laugh. It is funny, is it not, that your supermarket can produce a printed tape of everything you bought, how much you were charged for each item, how much your total was, and how you paid for it, but it is 'too expensive' to make a voting machine print a tape of how you voted. Oh, and the computer code that runs the voting machine is a 'trade secret', so no one can look at it. Even though it has been demonstrated time and again how easy it is to hack one of them.

Elections in the U.S. are a joke. A dog and pony show. The game is rigged. It is one of those things that amuse the rich and make the rest of us feel like we actually have a say in how we get ripped off. And nothing will change, since the vast majority of sheeple get their news from TV, and the TV airwaves are owned by huge multinationals who care only about keeping the status quo and transferring more and more wealth from the have-nots to the haves. They will be ecstatic when feudalism returns once more.

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This is THE ISSUE Vermudgeon May 2016 #1
HAVA was a scam. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #17
I had a long conversation with Chris Dodd, the author of HAVA one day. Fuddnik May 2016 #31
Unreliable, anonymous sources don't help the situation. Who is behind that stuff? L. Coyote May 2016 #22
denial bkkyosemite May 2016 #27
Bernie Only 291 Delegates Behind billhicks76 May 2016 #33
charnin is not hiding behind a net handle like you are questionseverything May 2016 #47
Charnin's methods are flawed, his own creation and not even real statistical methodology. L. Coyote May 2016 #48
screens change all the time questionseverything May 2016 #51
What, that old Brad blog from 2010 is supposed to do what, support bad statistics or a bogus book? L. Coyote May 2016 #53
the bradblog i posted should let any thinking person know that what the state posts as results questionseverything May 2016 #55
Why repeat allegations in Arnebeck's lawsuit if they are not factual and the conclusions false. L. Coyote May 2016 #56
it is up to you to prove the county totals did not change questionseverything May 2016 #58
i clearly stated the moe was exceeded,moe=margin of error questionseverything May 2016 #52
Except, that is patently false. L. Coyote May 2016 #54
your chart only deals with 2004, so you are comparing apples and oranges questionseverything May 2016 #57
This: HeartoftheMidwest May 2016 #2
K & R AzDar May 2016 #3
Thank you, thomhartmann! Duval May 2016 #4
I sure wish there was even a brief summary. SusanCalvin May 2016 #5
Me too. zentrum May 2016 #19
Here's some basic info. from the TH website, exactly the same as appalachiablue May 2016 #23
THANK YOU! SusanCalvin May 2016 #24
Nice play on words, Susan saidsimplesimon May 2016 #40
Heh. SusanCalvin May 2016 #45
It's a short video with real issues! bkkyosemite May 2016 #28
And, too many people don't have an Internet connection fast enough to watch YouTube scscholar May 2016 #32
Every web connection is fast enough to watch YouTubes, you just have to load them. L. Coyote May 2016 #50
And it drives us deafies up the freaking wall! nt tblue37 May 2016 #37
And to top that, you don't know how long the video is until you click on it. -none May 2016 #42
K & R !!! Thespian2 May 2016 #6
Oh, how I wish... Stonepounder May 2016 #7
Ohio 2004 punch card votes were switched before counting the ballots. L. Coyote May 2016 #8
Not quite right flashsmith99 May 2016 #11
Not quite right and very poorly informed about who you are trying to advise. L. Coyote May 2016 #21
Except they have not been deciding the winner or the loser. Rigged. bkkyosemite May 2016 #29
That's voter suppression speak, plain and simple. L. Coyote May 2016 #35
Obama's victories were rigged. He won by much bigger margins flashsmith99 May 2016 #61
But it really hurts our "honest elections" cause when . . FairWinds May 2016 #9
Kick!!!! felix_numinous May 2016 #10
Thom "buy my gold" Hartman. leftofcool May 2016 #12
Shoot the messenger, eh? earthshine May 2016 #13
Well said. zentrum May 2016 #20
It's said over and over on here....same things...denial cuz they want to win at any cost bkkyosemite May 2016 #30
election fraud is not just a GOP tool ZimInSeattle May 2016 #15
Wouldn't be a bit surprised. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #25
On your first post, you accuse a Democratic candidate of electioon fraud. Enjoy your stay. L. Coyote May 2016 #36
Welcome to DU. I live in Az. When I went to vote on our primary day I witnessed 2 people turned jillan May 2016 #38
Let me offer you a useful link Android3.14 May 2016 #39
Right on cue...... marmar May 2016 #43
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #44
K&R Paka May 2016 #14
Thank you so much, Thom Time for change May 2016 #16
Where is Black Lives Matter on this issue? nikto May 2016 #18
Busy forming a new movement, Black Votes Matter, L. Coyote May 2016 #49
That would be the logical thing to do nikto May 2016 #60
Yep. bkkyosemite May 2016 #26
+1000 colsohlibgal May 2016 #34
K&R. Yes please Hand Counted Paper Ballots! Overseas May 2016 #41
Yep. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #46
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2016 #59
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