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zentrum

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70. You're missing my point.

Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:54 AM

Jun 2016

She's a weak candidate or there would be easy unity within the party. That there isn't unity, ain't because of Bernie. Bernie is a "symptom", not the cause.

No one is blackmailing you to ask you to stop insulting these enthusiastic potential voters when there's only 2 points difference between Trump and HRC this AM. You feel blackmailed if you're asked to stop insulting them?

That's very interesting.

Even Harry Reid has said that Bernie has made her a better candidate and shouldn't leave the field. Now that's a smart politician. He understands that though he supports HRC, and has no "power" as you define it, he at least knows how to talk to non-HRC supporters and doesn't immediately scold them for not falling in line. He understands the real reasons for the lack of unity in the Democratic Party.

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***60,000**** !!!!!!! Bernie's LARGEST rally ever in Oakland -- 60,000 people!!!!! [View all] BigBearJohn May 2016 OP

And deafening silence on the part of the corporate owned media. bjo59 Jun 2016 #1

so rtracey Jun 2016 #104

Nightline last night on ABC-Disney Califonz Jun 2016 #150

And if it's Oakland, you can be damn sure that crowd's diverse. n/t. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #2

Not in the video. That crowd is a lot more than 35% white -- Oakland's percent. pnwmom Jun 2016 #6

You know what percentage of that crowd is white? merrily Jun 2016 #26

I didn't get the percentages from HRC's big rally yesterday. jalan48 Jun 2016 #34

She's been winning without big rallies. GOTV is what matters, pnwmom Jun 2016 #36

HRC and Trump zentrum Jun 2016 #42

If they want to toss the election to Trump, then it's on them. nt pnwmom Jun 2016 #44

As I said, this kind zentrum Jun 2016 #50

Sorry, but I'm sick of older, experienced Dems pnwmom Jun 2016 #53

Poor Hillary, such a delicate flower... BeanMusical Jun 2016 #58

The issue isn't how tough she is. The issue is how misinformed the haters are, pnwmom Jun 2016 #61

"the haters" BeanMusical Jun 2016 #66

Please explain how misinformed haters are? Rockyj Jun 2016 #153

For example, there are haters here who have brought up Whitewater pnwmom Jun 2016 #154

Wow. Just wow. zentrum Jun 2016 #62

No, not any critique. Just too many of the ones I read here. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #63

Admit it, you never read a Clinton critique you felt was justified.Ears and eyes shut. bjobotts Jun 2016 #110

You mean like on the latest episode of Hillary's lying regarding her e-mails? imagine2015 Jun 2016 #114

I think the email "scandal" is almost as trivial as the Christmas card scandal. pnwmom Jun 2016 #122

Hillary wishes to God that this was a Christmas Card scandal! Zen Democrat Jun 2016 #131

Sorry. HeartoftheMidwest Jun 2016 #85

Not to mention zentrum Jun 2016 #91

How about because she supports fracking and opposes Glass-Steagall. NOT Rethug talking points. Zen Democrat Jun 2016 #130

Ditto. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #138

NO!!! A thousand times "NO!" Herman4747 Jun 2016 #74

No. People have been lying about her all along, including pnwmom Jun 2016 #75

Aw Come on. Really, you can do better. Herman4747 Jun 2016 #78

But she sure was awesome while in Bosnia... BeanMusical Jun 2016 #82

The video is a splice and dice job of the Rethugs, but leave it to pnwmom Jun 2016 #124

A "splice and dice job"???? Herman4747 Jun 2016 #126

Cognitive dissonance won't allow them to acknowledge reality AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #144

You have confused Bernie with Trump. How'd you do that? Zen Democrat Jun 2016 #132

The Lewinsky thing is not a lie. That really did happen. Bill was impeached because of that. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2016 #148

If they want to toss the election to Trump, then it's on them. AlbertCat Jun 2016 #107

Toss the election to Trump? dynamo99 Jun 2016 #116

If you are determined to support the weaker candidate, bvar22 Jun 2016 #121

We don't have any power over your vote. Take responcibilty for yourself and stop the black mail. upaloopa Jun 2016 #60

"stop the black mail." BeanMusical Jun 2016 #68

You're missing my point. zentrum Jun 2016 #70

+1 Very well said. BeanMusical Jun 2016 #73

Hai. zentrum Jun 2016 #87

Hello zentrum! BeanMusical Jun 2016 #89

She doesn't have the trust factor, authenticity nor the ability to convince the public.............. raindaddy Jun 2016 #109

What we need is a non-violent revolution WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2016 #119

I think we're in the middle of one.... raindaddy Jun 2016 #145

I've always wanted to know how you can tell Hispanic or Asian from white in a big crowd. valerief Jun 2016 #83

Oooh, very well said, valerief. BeanMusical Jun 2016 #90

No matter what, 60,000 people showing up at a rally is a really big deal. bjobotts Jun 2016 #111

I don't believe you will get an answer on that "Inconvenient Truth". bvar22 Jun 2016 #123

A big crowd indeed! tblue37 Jun 2016 #3

Wow! Thanks for the pics, tblue37. BeanMusical Jun 2016 #59

You are welcome. I went looking for a good shot, but these were the tblue37 Jun 2016 #93

I believe that I saw some aerial photos on FB. BeanMusical Jun 2016 #96

THAT is TRULY amazing! MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #139

Maybe some MFM008 Jun 2016 #4

For you Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #7

A lot of the 2016 primaries and caucuses have been nothing short of, um, magical. merrily Jun 2016 #27

That's a very dumb excuse. Hrc won Brooklyn by huge numbers La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #46

"It would make no sense to intentionally purge democrats in a district that hrc has a huge advantag" BeanMusical Jun 2016 #69

Or maybe people who think this was intentional are stupid La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #77

Well I happen to like and respect you so I'll stop right here. BeanMusical Jun 2016 #80

Good god, why?!! lostnfound Jun 2016 #147

Bean is WAY more forgiving than needed for your remark... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #140

Lol. It's not my fault that these conspiracies are stupid. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #151

That is not what you said. Just sayin'. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #155

Intelligent people don't believe in stupid conspiracies. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #156

That seems to be your theory... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #159

Average NYC precinct saw less than 12% Democratic turnout this cycle, similar to last election and Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #95

See reply 56. CentralMass Jun 2016 #108

New York....... New York? Plucketeer Jun 2016 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author Gene Debs Jun 2016 #10

"Some" will vote for him? liberalnarb Jun 2016 #47

You don't know New York State jmowreader Jun 2016 #115

We had crooked activity like this going on in NY. CentralMass Jun 2016 #56

It is very gratifying to see -- pacalo Jun 2016 #5

Sorry folks, that's Ogawa Plaza, in front of City Hall. You couldn't get 3000 people in that plaza demosincebirth Jun 2016 #8

There are probably a few people out of frame. Gene Debs Jun 2016 #11

Sorry, 3000 max! demosincebirth Jun 2016 #12

Maybe the place is bigger than you remember? pugetres Jun 2016 #14

I worked on 14th & Franklin -- two blocks from Ogawa Plaza. Cut it demosincebirth Jun 2016 #20

I'll forward your message pugetres Jun 2016 #21

F**k ABC. You guys will believe anything if it enhances Sanders. demosincebirth Jun 2016 #24

Why is it, seemingly, so critically vital for you to insist that the crowd was no bigger than 3000? Gene Debs Jun 2016 #43

Keep on whining. liberalnarb Jun 2016 #45

Will you believe it on election night when CNN calls California for Bernie? INdemo Jun 2016 #117

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Jun 2016 #25

I wonder what Google Earth saw in NYC? merrily Jun 2016 #29

"I worked on 14th & Franklin -- two blocks from Ogawa Plaza." BeanMusical Jun 2016 #65

*snort* dorkzilla Jun 2016 #97

I would guess that the police know the area pretty well and they estimated the crowd bjo59 Jun 2016 #32

Much like NY, where people were wall to wall for blocks surrounding the spot where Bernie was. merrily Jun 2016 #28

Ogawa plaza is 160,000 square feet passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #13

This article on crowd estimates says 2.5 sq ft is "mosh pit density" pnwmom Jun 2016 #17

Check out the pics of NY merrily Jun 2016 #30

"Are you sure you know what you are talking about? " BeanMusical Jun 2016 #86

Of course they do! They have a degree in Plazaology! dorkzilla Jun 2016 #92

OK, it's not just me--I thought if that's 60K people I have no sense of MADem Jun 2016 #37

The old and dusty "Bernie is a racist" card. BeanMusical Jun 2016 #94

Jury Results (for Transparency) The Polack MSgt Jun 2016 #113

Wow, a moron alerted on this? BeanMusical Jun 2016 #133

Inspiring! avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #9

Wehre did you get that estimate BBJohn? passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #15

News sources all said between 20 and 30. I've seen it reported over and over that the Oakland bjo59 Jun 2016 #33

Thanks bjo59 passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #112

The other sources I've seen say about ***20,000***. pnwmom Jun 2016 #16

oakland police reported 60k but abc and nbc reported hopemountain Jun 2016 #18

That would be "mosh pit density" -- about 2.66 sq ft per person. pnwmom Jun 2016 #23

Y'all are funny about Bernie's crowds. Police estimates were just fine when it was Obama. merrily Jun 2016 #31

Anyone got cold, hard figures Plucketeer Jun 2016 #51

It was NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #57

Well, there's this: BeanMusical Jun 2016 #79

Holy cow, FlaGranny Jun 2016 #125

My friend and her mother tried to go to a rally in the Monterey area... C Moon Jun 2016 #19

Bernie!! AzDar Jun 2016 #22

Clinton supporters should provide us with the numbers at Hillary rallies... Peace Patriot Jun 2016 #35

Hillary is not a "rally" person. She never has been. MADem Jun 2016 #38

It could be a matter of style--rallies vs town halls--except for one thing... Peace Patriot Jun 2016 #55

Hillary will become more lovable once Barack starts endorsing her. MADem Jun 2016 #67

"Hillary will become more lovable once Barack starts endorsing her." BeanMusical Jun 2016 #71

Aren't you being UGLY and vicious towards me! DAMN! MADem Jun 2016 #102

Now, now calm down, please. BeanMusical Jun 2016 #135

No "now now" about it--you have to account for your vile words. MADem Jun 2016 #146

Lovely post, Peace Patriot Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2016 #76

"Hillary is not a "rally" person. She never has been." BeanMusical Jun 2016 #81

Wouldn't it be nice if those people in the bottom pic voted? MADem Jun 2016 #100

Indeed, it would be nice if all of them were allowed to vote. nt Doremus Jun 2016 #118

You want to play, you have to join the club. MADem Jun 2016 #149

You didn't mention the purges. Not surprised. No need to reply. nt Doremus Jun 2016 #157

Sorry--you don't get to hit and run like that. MADem Jun 2016 #158

None of them vote? BeanMusical Jun 2016 #127

I don't give links to people who make vulgar and racist insinuations about MADem Jun 2016 #152

Yes, yes and yes! HillareeeHillaraah Jun 2016 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author MADem Jun 2016 #39

Jury results Exilednight Jun 2016 #41

Someone alerted this post? BeanMusical Jun 2016 #129

Thanks for that post, Peace... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #143

Few of which vote. Seemingly. nt onehandle Jun 2016 #40

They all vote. They just get screwed one way or another in the system. liberalnarb Jun 2016 #48

Well, california primary is semi closed... BeanMusical Jun 2016 #54

"Screwed" kjones Jun 2016 #84

Are you sure that you replied to the right poster? BeanMusical Jun 2016 #88

Oooh--the SYSTEM! How dare those DEMOCRATS in the DEMOCRATIC Party pick their own candidate! MADem Jun 2016 #72

CA is open anyway BainsBane Jun 2016 #128

Get ready for the Democratic Establishment nyabingi Jun 2016 #52

Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Jun 2016 #64

I share your Enthusiasm! (sorry, I wanted to say something like this to you for a while) BeanMusical Jun 2016 #98

That's great because we need buckets of enthusiasm! Enthusiast Jun 2016 #101

I truly like you, Enthusiast. BeanMusical Jun 2016 #136

You too! Enthusiast Jun 2016 #137

Can you imagine MSM coverage of a 60K event for Trump or HRC? Thanks for the post EndElectoral Jun 2016 #103

Bernie or Bust for me baby! KPN Jun 2016 #105

Please let that translate into 60,000 votes !! Hiraeth Jun 2016 #106

Is Bernie the most successful candidate reign88 Jun 2016 #120

Oh, this just drives them nuts doesn't it? pa28 Jun 2016 #134

Thank you, California Carolina Jun 2016 #141

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