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axollot

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45. Since 2012 I have been concerned about HRC being able to win...
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jul 2016

... and before I get a stake in my heart here - hear me out.

She is all those things you state it's true but beyond the base she's not motivating people. She's struggling to reach even the base. The party must welcome all new members and stop mocking them as clueless. We all learned at some point how each state works.

My concern since 2012 as stated was her ability to win; and I was a delegate that year. So I'm not about to throw my vote away here in Floriduh. That doesn't mean I don't have concerns as what happened in this cycle reminds me so much of 2014.

The same thing happened in Florida in 2014. Crist was a decent governor - he was ousted by Rick Scott - it made him a poor candidate choice to run as a Democrat in 2014 and he lost. Did it mean he wasn't qualified? No he was and tho he was GOP previously as the GOP governor he expanded voting, made it easier. Did many good things. Some Rick Scott is *still* taking credit for too. But he didn't' win.

It is historically difficult to hold the executive office after holding it for 2 terms, regardless of party. The nation tends to shift from one to the other after 2 terms. A party holding the executive office for more than 2 terms happened once in my life - Bush Sr after Reagan.

I was here at DU during Kerry and 08 HRC/Obama showdown too. The party base tends to coalesce by convention time. The party needs to recognize their candidate's flaws with the voting public and fix it somehow before November. Others simply think the whole thing is rigged.

Been finding local and state involvement rather rewarding, lately.

Personally went from delegate and dues paying member; to no longer a dues paying member of the DNC because of mismanagement and zero assistance in helping our precinct for anything - we have people running unopposed due to lack of assistance here from the state and national party even when we have candidates! Including Federal, I quit in utter disgust in 2013.

Though my precinct knows I'm available for some volunteer work (youth are the best volunteers tho!) due to a total cockup here in state law and my dark red county many of us had to switch registration to oust the likes of Angela Corey {Marissa Alexander 20yrs warning shot; George Zimmerman special prosecutor} and our superintendent of schools in county. As we were the largest district in the state to not have any Charter Schools until... last year! We women want that SoS OUT. He actually had the gall to 'out' a transgender student (who is now suing him and the district rightfully so) at the last SB meeting. Why? Well she had the nerve to take him to task over his 'agenda of hate' towards our LGBT students (something we didn't have until he became SoS in 2012 by catching us all off guard. My son grew up here openly gay without much issues, graduated in 2012)

More people need to get our states fixed from local to state and federal offices *before* the next census in 2020 IF we want to prevent another gerrymander.

Now, if you must stake me, please don't miss

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