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BumRushDaShow

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40. But then you sortof argued my point
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:35 AM
Jun 2017

When you are trying to change the narrative, that can't be done using the newspapers that the "other side" have already discredited to their base, because that base will NOT believe a word that is printed in them. You need those papers that are closer to where these folks live, to step up to the plate.

Case in point - during the final months of the general election, you actually had a number of "conservative" newspapers in NH, TX, and OH that actually refused to endorse Drumpf - the first time that they did NOT endorse the Republican Presidential candidate (either ever or in many decades).

THOSE are the papers that need to transition Drumpf's "base" off the Breitbart/Newsmax/InfoWars bandwagon and bring back the Buckley propaganda machine as a path away from the cliff (what I call the "annoying Republicans vs the RW racist loons now in control). They could perhaps feature some on the right who have been vocally pushing against Drumpf - like George Will, David Frum, and Bill Kristol (among others). Buckley's old rag - the National Review, is already doing some of that with their articles.

The NY Times is speaking to our own choir, not theirs. It and some of the well known "national" papers are coming out of deep blue cities and are unable to "speak to" the areas that need the conversation. That has to come from their hometown papers. Would love to have those folks "flip" to Democratic but that will not happen overnight. They have to be weened off the alternate universe narrative first. I would not be surprised if those "conservatives" mentioned above (and others who feel the same way) may try to put together their own think tank/alternate media outlet as a last ditch effort to "save" the Raygun "brand".

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I disagree with this guy's analysis bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #1
Media gave us Trump sharedvalues Jun 2017 #4
Yeah Cosmocat Jun 2017 #5
Yes! Write an op-ed to the NYT sharedvalues Jun 2017 #8
IDK Cosmocat Jun 2017 #12
carter is talking about symptoms - talk radio is the cause certainot Jun 2017 #18
well thought out Cosmocat Jun 2017 #24
Absolutely - Rush Limbaugh and the other haters FakeNoose Jun 2017 #29
i think pressure on some of those universities to look for alternatives to certainot Jun 2017 #31
The only way to shut the hate mongers up is the to shut them down. olegramps Jun 2017 #32
They live in an alternate universe. And as you say, it has gotten worse and worse, deurbano Jun 2017 #20
Yep Cosmocat Jun 2017 #23
they need to see their gods discredited and shouted at but it has been the certainot Jun 2017 #33
This! (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #6
TY KNR Lucinda Jun 2017 #2
I also disagree with this guy... jaxind Jun 2017 #3
Because those voters were brainwashed by right wing media sharedvalues Jun 2017 #7
THIS BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #10
YEP Cosmocat Jun 2017 #13
How do we get this message out to the NYT? sharedvalues Jun 2017 #37
Well note, the NYT is still a New York city paper BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #38
Yes and no. Starts with national papers sharedvalues Jun 2017 #39
But then you sortof argued my point BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #40
Yes, I see what you're saying sharedvalues Jun 2017 #41
The main way to get to those "local" papers is via AP or Reuters BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #42
Yes. Infotainment harms America. Except you're too easy onNYT sharedvalues Jun 2017 #43
Part of the NYT stuff regarding Hillary BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #44
Agreed all around, except that NYT gets used by the right sharedvalues Jun 2017 #46
The one benefit of the NYT though BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #47
Exactly! ++++ Duppers Jun 2017 #17
I will always think there was paid for disruption of Democrats in both the Clinton and Sanders camp. gordianot Jun 2017 #9
various ages have characterized them as many different things bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #11
I agree. Russia was actively driving fissures between Dems and GOP was helping them. CousinIT Jun 2017 #16
I was not a Clinton fan but there never a doubt I would vote for her. gordianot Jun 2017 #19
Same here. Sanders in primary, Clinton in the general. CousinIT Jun 2017 #28
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