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In reply to the discussion: Nina Turner on BERNIE SANDERS at the Women's Convention [View all]sheshe2
(98,290 posts)11. Maybe
The organizers of the Womens March were smart and they collected hundreds of thousands of emails by having people register for the march. Since that time I have received countless missives from them asking me to do one thing or another in support of the resistance to Trump.
Then I received an email about their organizing a womens conference in Detroit at the end of October. It was an exciting email to get as it reminded me of when I first got involved in the womens movement working for Bella S. Abzug (D-NY). Bella along with Congresswoman Patsy Mink (D-HI) fought for Congressional funding for what was to become the National Womans Conference held November 1821, 1977 in Houston, Texas. Between 17,000 and 22,000 people took part. Some 2,000 delegates and 15-20,000 observers. The goal was to hammer out a Plan of Action to be presented to the Carter Administration and Congress for consideration and/or adoption. Each of the twenty-six Resolutions on Womens Rights in the Plan was proposed to the attendees and voted upon collectively. The Conference was chaired by Bella Abzug. I was lucky enough to join Bella at the White House when she presented the final plan to the President.
What I would have hoped was the planners of this conference in Detroit would have looked at what was the opening ceremony list of speakers at that conference to understand what helped to make the conference so great. Now that list wouldnt be as diverse as we would want it to be today, but it was women and it isnt difficult to think of brilliant and dynamic women today representing the diversity you want. The opening ceremony speakers included: First Ladies Rosalyn Carter, Betty Ford and Lady Bird Johnson, activists Coretta Scott King, Bella Abzug, Betty Friedan, Barbara Jordan, Liz Carpenter, and Jean Stapleton. Maya Angelou read Declaration of American Women 1977.
I have been an activist fighting for many causes for many years including womens rights, civil rights, disability rights, childrens rights, and the rights of the LGBT community among others. I was on the committee that helped plan the recent Equality March for the LGBTQ+ community. So when I see something like this self-inflicted wound on what should be a conference supported and hailed by all women I feel sad. So much work goes into these things. People are committed and volunteer their time and effort to make a difference. Clearly the invitation to Sanders has shown the conference, or at least the planning committee responsible for inviting speakers, has been hijacked by some who arent there for the purpose of galvanizing all women to come together around an agenda to fight for their future, the future of the country, and future generations. Rather they have their own political agenda and are inserting it to the detriment of this conference.
Maybe it will take Senator Sanders himself to understand his presence on that stage in Detroit is more divisive than helpful and he will withdraw as a speaker. Doing that may be doing more for womens rights than he has ever done before. As men we must recognize the time for women to gather, to speak out, and to lead; is NOW!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029708026
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The vid in the Op is calling women neoliberals. Are you serious?
A woman's conference is for women. As the video shows men speak for us, they do not stand in front of us.
We are one woman, we shall always be sisters.
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Oh, I see you edited out calling Hillary Clinton a Goldwater Girl in your post.
betsuni
Oct 2017
#153
I've never seen any other politician held responsible for what they did at sixteen years old.
betsuni
Oct 2017
#163
Clinton's favorables were in the high 60's when she left the Dept of State
emulatorloo
Oct 2017
#155
Did I say 'all'? Nope, you said most black women based on things you can't back up.
Ninsianna
Oct 2017
#171
Joy Reid is probably one of the most respected and revered AA woman progressive "pundit"....
George II
Oct 2017
#194
Nope, because the video shows most black women have a high favor-ability of Sanders.
Quixote1818
Oct 2017
#211
Except for the fact that it doesn't say that at all, nor does any poll show that.
Ninsianna
Oct 2017
#220
Because it was the first place I had seen the stats on Sanders polling with black folks. nt
Quixote1818
Oct 2017
#210
Not surprising... Bernie is popular with ALL groups, across the board... and for good reason!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Oct 2017
#78
I silenced people? I made a vote? I have a plan? Havent the slightest idea what you're talkin about.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Oct 2017
#187
How do you think he got to be the most popular politician in America right now?
InAbLuEsTaTe
Oct 2017
#188
He's not the most popular politician in America. If you're referring to the Harvard-Harris poll....
George II
Oct 2017
#189
Well, I can only assume the poll to which you're referring, you weren't specific, but most likely..
George II
Oct 2017
#191
Other than Obama, who's obviously not eligible to run for Prez again in 2020...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Oct 2017
#195
The premise behind the poll wasn't prospective presidential candidates. It was simply...
George II
Oct 2017
#199
You make some good points and I, for one, certainly don't consider the poll "definitive"
InAbLuEsTaTe
Oct 2017
#200
Thanks. I doubt we'll see a poll of prospective candidates, an all-inclusive one, at least....
George II
Oct 2017
#201
I certainly HOPE not until 2019... we need to focus on the 2018 congressional races, in a BIG way!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Oct 2017
#203
You do realize that the Harvard-Harris poll gave respondents only a limited list of "policitians"...
George II
Oct 2017
#96
We like him well enough (except the Dem bashing), most of us went for Hillary though.
brush
Oct 2017
#104
Black women aren't even shown on that graph, so how do you come to the conclusion that...
George II
Oct 2017
#164
But Tamika said that Bernie was the headliner, and that Maxine was giving the keynotee.
Ninsianna
Oct 2017
#9
A simple reality is that half of all women are conservative and that perhaps
Hortensis
Oct 2017
#159
You'd think that the fact that they're doing this perched on their stools on Fox would clue them in
Ninsianna
Oct 2017
#168
Lol. So true. The eyebrow-raiser of claiming to want "unity" but insisting on division.
Hortensis
Oct 2017
#179
I ran into a few people who were repeating the crap I see proliferating online.
Ninsianna
Oct 2017
#222
I suggest you read this post to get the full timeline of the contradictory statements
emulatorloo
Oct 2017
#56
Revisionist history based on constantly shifting/contradictory statements by organizers
emulatorloo
Oct 2017
#80
Me neither... it's time for unity, as 2018 and 2020 will be upon us before you know it!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Oct 2017
#198
She's the keynote. Bernie has the primetime slot, and is the actual headliner
Ninsianna
Oct 2017
#12
The "identity politics" card is played when convenient and disparaged when not.
deurbano
Oct 2017
#20
Thank you! She's a disaster (and a perfect fit for that org she now heads.)
NurseJackie
Oct 2017
#36
Actually they do since Sanders does best with women of color than any other group
Quixote1818
Oct 2017
#70
Actually, we don't. This is why it's a mistake to mansplain to us what we women
Ninsianna
Oct 2017
#74
Indeed you did, that Nina is the only one entitled to speak for black men and women
Ninsianna
Oct 2017
#166
My goodness. The "corporate media" that loves Sander so much they have Bernie's
Ninsianna
Oct 2017
#219
You still have not shown me your poll suggesting Sanders is not popular with blacks
Quixote1818
Oct 2017
#213
I just presented it to him, since he's having ever so much trouble finding it
Ninsianna
Oct 2017
#176
What is your point, Hillary lost to Obama before eventually getting the nomination
Quixote1818
Oct 2017
#162
What are you talking about? Where did I even mention giving up after losing the first time. huh?
lunamagica
Oct 2017
#214
Yes, keep saying how Democrats are worse than the GOP. Keep helping Republicans to get
lunamagica
Oct 2017
#45
As a POC, Nina Turner sure as hell doesn't speak for me. Besides, she works for Sanders.
Tarheel_Dem
Oct 2017
#22
so divisiveness is now being projected onto those who find Nina's divisiveness offensive?
JHan
Oct 2017
#35
We share those goals. Nina has stated publicly she wants to endorse Libertarians and Republicans
emulatorloo
Oct 2017
#57
Right. Posting on DU will hurt us. But having Turner bashing the Democratic Party all over the
lunamagica
Oct 2017
#46
I sincerely doubt it. More troublesome is someone trashing Democrats and the Democratic Party.
Lil Missy
Oct 2017
#50
Progressives don't propose endorsing/funding Republicans and Libertarians in elections afaik
emulatorloo
Oct 2017
#53
That people uncomfortable w a man opening a women's conference are really racists attacking POC
emulatorloo
Oct 2017
#83
Insinuating women are racist because they think it's weird to have man open a women's conference
emulatorloo
Oct 2017
#93
"Nina Turner says that instead of fighting with women of color for inviting Bernie Sanders"
emulatorloo
Oct 2017
#124
I most certainly am NOT insinuating women are racist by my statement that
InAbLuEsTaTe
Oct 2017
#160
No, dishonest rhetoric. Insinuates women who think it's dumb for a man to open a Women's Conference
emulatorloo
Oct 2017
#89
"Nina Turner says that instead of fighting with women of color for inviting Bernie"
emulatorloo
Oct 2017
#110
Which "critics" is she talking about? Is she implying that Democrats are not focusing....
George II
Oct 2017
#94
You're kinda supposed to quietly use the Ignore Button, not announce or boast about it.
emulatorloo
Oct 2017
#114
I've got an idea, Nina. Let's concentrate on WOMEN at the Women's Convention.
SunSeeker
Oct 2017
#145
Bernie is a decent man, a caring man, a man who supports and fights for women's rights and issues
InAbLuEsTaTe
Oct 2017
#193
Oh okay, got it... I must of misread all those media stories recognizing Bernie
InAbLuEsTaTe
Oct 2017
#208