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In reply to the discussion: Nina Turner on BERNIE SANDERS at the Women's Convention [View all]BainsBane
(57,751 posts)As I already enumerated in a previous post. You know the poll was a commercial rather than scientific one.You know the sample size on race was statistically invalid, but you don't care. Because propaganda that validates the priority of a few true "progressvies," defined as a priority on Bernie's career, and invalidates the views, and with them the lives, of the majority is all that matters.
That you feel entitled to determine who is allowed to speak for us to decide what rights we are allowed to have PROVES the very claims the critics of the invitation have made. Women should be able to speak to their own rights, particularly at an event billed as a women's convention.
Black women went 85% for Clinton in the primary and 97% in the general election. I already provided links that demonstrate as much, which you have ignored, and now claim that your TV clip and statistically invalid poll constitute "facts," thereby discrediting the votes and views of the overwhelming majority of women. Only Bernie is fit to determine which rights we are allowed to have. We must accept his determination that our reproductive rights are too "divisive" to be a priority for the Democratic Party--OUR party. That lack of access to abortion greatly increases poverty for women and children--who constitute 75% of the population--and the highest pregnancy mortality rates in the developed world, as in Texas, spokesman for our rights are of no consequencce. A propaganda poll proves that the views of women who dare to object to Bernie as the spokesman for our rights just don't matter. (Even though all the poll measured was general favorability ratings and not that he should be the ONE person whose voice on women's rights should be heeded. Even though the poll over-represented independents under thirty and contained a very small, and thereby statistically invalid, sample size for race by gender.)
Bernie's supporters and the "women's" conference organizers could create a conference around Bernie 2020 and raise money for it based on that goal rather than taking it under false circumstances and now refusing to refund it. But then that wouldn't enforce the politics of domination, in which women are forced to sublimate their voices and rights to Bernie and his political ambitions.
The message is that the rights, lives, and economic survival of women like me are simply not important enough for our opinions to count. That says a great deal about what the results of Bernie's elevation to power would mean. Even with limited power, he is used to invalidate our concerns and interests. And that you as a man insists that I must accept a man's--who has never prioritized or shown an interest in women's rights (though to his credit has a strong voting record)--determination about what should matter to me proves that placing Bernie as the headline speaker at the conference sends a message that validates patriarchy and enforces a social hierarchy with Bernie supporters at the top. Even with limited power, Bernie is being used to enforce the silence and submission of women and as a pretext for invalidating our voices. I shudder to imagine what would happen if that power was centered in the White House.
The 2020 primary, should Bernie seek the Dem nomination (though I suspect he will not) or GE (more likely) will show what his popularity truly is among women and women of color, just as 2016 did. Those results will be, and were, more demonstrative than your favorite commercial poll.
And of course that clip is intended to invalidate Joy Reid's views by determining her "anti-progressive" and thereby inferior, just as you use a deliberately misleading and statistically invalid commercial poll to invalidate the voices of the thousands of women (far more than in the poll purchased by the Hill) objecting to his placement at the top of the women's conference. As long as submission to Bernie is enforced, that is all that matters. It's about power and subjugation, and women like me are on the losing end of it.