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mountain grammy

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90. So you obtject to Bernie Sanders, I get that.

Tue Jan 30, 2018, 04:35 PM

Jan 2018

But is an Independent, like most registered voters in America.. Should they have the opportunity to hear from an Independent?

Maxine Waters is a Democrat. Do you object to her speaking?

Donna Edwards is a Democrat. Do you object to her speaking?

Elizabeth Guzman is a Democrat. Do you object to her giving a response in Spanish?

Will they argue with Kennedy? I don't know, I doubt it. Will they have a different perspective? Probably, but I'm ok with that.
Kennedy is against the legalization of marijuana.. that's a big problem for me. He'll give a good response, but what will he say about the criminal justice system and the drug war? I'm ready to hear more from the left, which is where I am.

You see, I also care that Democrats are elected in November. That's not going to happen if we exclude people.

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IT'S OFFICIAL: @SenSanders will deliver his own #SOTU2018 response live and on the Internet! [View all] Donkees Jan 2018 OP

Old Bernie snowybirdie Jan 2018 #1

Yes, yes he does. comradebillyboy Jan 2018 #3

I love Bernie and his voters and all who are liberal and progressive. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #7

Tomorrow night. George II Jan 2018 #10

I have no respect for bernie for a few reasons, but that's my choice right? Wwcd Jan 2018 #95

Right. It's our freedom to choose, and we should never forget to be thankful for that. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #96

I'd have chosen Sanctions, but thats just me. Wwcd Jan 2018 #100

Is Jane gonna show up? Awkward! Wwcd Jan 2018 #70

Bazinga! George II Jan 2018 #86

... ehrnst Jan 2018 #166

+1,000,000 George II Jan 2018 #85

Our policies deserve the spotlight. He is steadfastly working to make a better country for all of us. The Wielding Truth Jan 2018 #183

I'm looking forward to the speeches of both Bernie and Kennedy. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #2

Sanders and progressives plan three responses to the State of the Union Donkees Jan 2018 #5

I'll be watching them all. I'm really excited that we on the liberal/Democratic/progressive Sophia4 Jan 2018 #6

Most people will watch, at most, ONE response. Anyone who interferes with Joe Kennedy's... Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #12

Interfere????? Sophia4 Jan 2018 #13

As I said, most people watch THE response on tv. Most people don't spend an hour after the SOTU Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #20

But Kennedy's speech is the one on TV, and if everyone watches TV, then that is Sophia4 Jan 2018 #21

Both the SOTU and the Democratic rebuttal will be livestreamed. lapucelle Jan 2018 #34

Not everything is about YOU. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #41

Sadly. Wouldn't life be great FOR ME if everything was about ME? Sophia4 Jan 2018 #46

Oh, Honeycomb, I can't agree it's important to watch Hortensis Jan 2018 #156

Thank you. The Wapo article already hints at the coming points of division Wwcd Jan 2018 #99

Good, as many as we can.. mountain grammy Jan 2018 #26

The Democratic Party is putting out ONE message...by Joe Kennedy. Msgs by others are OTHER parties. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #42

Well, guess you told me! Are you the official spokesperson for the Democratic party? mountain grammy Jan 2018 #43

I wonder whether the people who are fanatically rejecting the idea of listening to more Sophia4 Jan 2018 #47

Fanatics? ehrnst Jan 2018 #69

Fanatics! Well thanks for the unity. Wwcd Jan 2018 #133

:) If some don't like the word fanaticism, can we agree Hortensis Jan 2018 #159

Yup. One strong righteous message from our strong Dem Party of the people Wwcd Jan 2018 #107

I hope one of them reads Trump the riot act for not enforcing the Russia sanctions today. N/T lapucelle Jan 2018 #33

Yes, I hope so too. mountain grammy Jan 2018 #44

All the Democrats voted for the sanctions on Russia. sheshe2 Jan 2018 #66

Why would anyone NOT want Russia Sanctioned! WHY? Wwcd Jan 2018 #92

I have no clue, Wwcd. sheshe2 Jan 2018 #97

Question everything , everyone who shows you a serious reason to doubt Wwcd Jan 2018 #104

Yep. sheshe2 Jan 2018 #117

... LexVegas Jan 2018 #4

To be fair, lapucelle Jan 2018 #32

Are all of these responses running concurrently? The Polack MSgt Jan 2018 #8

That's what YouTube is for. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #14

Most people watch on tv. Broadcast tv is free, BTW. This is CRITICAL for the Dem Party, you know. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #18

My thought as well, We should be laser focused The Polack MSgt Jan 2018 #24

Hell yes, one message, one voice, vote for ANY democrat in November. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #51

One message. One voice. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #78

You do realize that you just invoked one of the most often repeated slogans of the Nazis, don't you? George II Jan 2018 #116

Yes. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #120

So you're using a 1930s Nazi slogan to refer to the Democratic Party? I find that unconscionable. George II Jan 2018 #121

Sorry. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #122

Then delete it. Wwcd Jan 2018 #135

Translated "ein volk ein fhrer" (full term is "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fhrer") means: George II Jan 2018 #167

No, she used it to critique the demand for only one voice to speak for the party. nt tblue37 Jan 2018 #137

In German. Quoting Nazis directly? That's what you call "a critique?" ehrnst Jan 2018 #173

You are calling us Nazis mcar Jan 2018 #125

Sorry. If my language is poorly chosen, please ignore it. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #129

Do you consider it accepting, uniting brer cat Jan 2018 #147

Depends. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #152

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Jan 2018 #177

Nope. You made a flat out statement. brer cat Jan 2018 #179

Thanks. We are the state of Pat and Ed Brown, Schwarzenegger and Reagan, both Democrats Sophia4 Jan 2018 #180

Whether your views brer cat Jan 2018 #181

We shall see in November. Democrats in Virginia and even Alabama have Sophia4 Jan 2018 #182

Inclusive? You think Nazi comparisons encourage "inclusivity?" ehrnst Jan 2018 #151

Apologize for the NAZI comparison. That is how you can be "inclusive." ehrnst Jan 2018 #175

It's not Democrats that are demanding no dissent from a manifesto... ehrnst Jan 2018 #150

I've seen this rhetoric before where people are encouraged to shun Democrats R B Garr Jan 2018 #153

Who chose Bernie to speak? brer cat Jan 2018 #118

Maybe Bernie supporters? Or should we just throw them out and forget about Sophia4 Jan 2018 #119

Did He Hold A Vote For Supporters Me. Jan 2018 #123

I have no idea. I just think that the more responses we have, the better. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #126

Fair Enough Me. Jan 2018 #131

As long as you know who "chose" them ehrnst Jan 2018 #164

I have no clue. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #155

I Think It Was A Unilateral Decision Me. Jan 2018 #158

Who do you think? And who would you have chosen? ehrnst Jan 2018 #165

You have been passionately, repeatedly brer cat Jan 2018 #124

Oh, so those are the only options? ehrnst Jan 2018 #154

The primary is over, Sophia. It's 2018. ehrnst Jan 2018 #168

Seriously? I'm almost a Nazi because I want a focused DEMOCRATIC response - The Polack MSgt Jan 2018 #160

"ein volk ein fuhrer "?? You're comparing Dems wanting a unified voice with the NAZIs? ehrnst Jan 2018 #170

Do you know who in the Democratic Party chose Kennedy? Sophia4 Jan 2018 #77

Democratic Party leaders. Why...did yu want someone else in the Party? nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #79

I just wondered. Thanks. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #81

Do you know who chose Bernie? mcar Jan 2018 #128

No. I don't. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #130

I'm just wondering why you keep asking who "chose" Kennedy mcar Jan 2018 #132

Good point. nt sheshe2 Jan 2018 #184

Do you think that there is malfeasance going on if you don't know who did? ehrnst Jan 2018 #178

No, it's really not. I think you've lost perspective. Hortensis Jan 2018 #163

Have you ever considered that GaryCnf Jan 2018 #171

Exactly, but take it to Honeycombe. Hortensis Jan 2018 #174

This GaryCnf Jan 2018 #176

Yes, it is. I think you are losing perspective because of your favorites. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #185

Your post dates you, I know because the same thought crossed my mind. mountain grammy Jan 2018 #27

Kennedy is, I'm sure a highly qualified speaker, but I wonder how he was chosen, Sophia4 Jan 2018 #48

Agree! mountain grammy Jan 2018 #53

"Fanatics"? sheshe2 Jan 2018 #59

People who only want to listen to one speech. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #89

So those that do not agree... sheshe2 Jan 2018 #94

Yes. I like to be informed. And that is why I try different flavors of ice cream and Sophia4 Jan 2018 #98

Yes, I read you like other flavors. sheshe2 Jan 2018 #103

I wonder if I support Biden or Kamala Harris if I will be a "fanatic" Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #140

Sure isn't a very nice word to describe another Democrat. sheshe2 Jan 2018 #142

You may want to look into the Democratic history of the Kennedy family. George II Jan 2018 #73

I am speechless that you would have to say that here. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #141

Rigid view? You mean like there being only one way to get to universal health care ehrnst Jan 2018 #76

mmmm, hmmmm. You got it! George II Jan 2018 #105

+1 treestar Jan 2018 #136

+++++++++++++++++ sheshe2 Jan 2018 #144

The Party chooses the speaker on both sides. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #82

I just wondered. Because members of Congress could choose. That would be Sophia4 Jan 2018 #87

The Dem Party leaders are in Congress. Don't know if the DNC is involved, too. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #91

Thanks. Sounds good. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #93

Is this an attempt at yet another DNC conspiracy? This is very divisive to continue R B Garr Jan 2018 #138

The DEMOCRATIC Party chooses the Democratic response, and it's not always a member of Congress. George II Jan 2018 #109

Are you seriously calling DUers fanatics? mcar Jan 2018 #108

Several times she called DUers fanatics. sheshe2 Jan 2018 #145

That "mysterious group" is Democrats. George II Jan 2018 #115

No one here has been "rushes to approve whoever it is that is chosen by this mysterious R B Garr Jan 2018 #139

Kennedy and Guzman were chosen by Democratic leadership. lapucelle Jan 2018 #157

Muddy is probably the point. With all eyes on Media, everyone's jumping for their share Wwcd Jan 2018 #134

Is that the Sanders that caucuses with the Democrats? Isn't Joseph Kennedy III.... George II Jan 2018 #9

The article says that Kennedy's response will be based on a written document prepared Sophia4 Jan 2018 #16

Interesting sneer about voting Republican. Are you R B Garr Jan 2018 #22

I wondered this same thing. tonyt53 Jan 2018 #31

My point exactly. Let's stop dividing Democrats. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #49

Ive already seen the sneers about Kennedy at that JPR R B Garr Jan 2018 #83

Hmmm. sheshe2 Jan 2018 #146

Yup. Biden and Kennedy both. Sounded like they were being, uhh.... R B Garr Jan 2018 #148

Figures. sheshe2 Jan 2018 #162

I'll send you my hunch..... R B Garr Jan 2018 #169

Gotcha. sheshe2 Jan 2018 #172

"Bernie who knows the history of our government personally" mcar Jan 2018 #110

Do you know how Kennedy was picked? Sophia4 Jan 2018 #80

Well, Maxine Waters is going to be talking off the cuff afterwards. ehrnst Jan 2018 #72

Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2018 #75

Speaking of "OFFICIAL", Representative Kennedy will be giving the OFFICIAL Democratic Response. George II Jan 2018 #102

Democratic leadership chose two speakers to respond lapucelle Jan 2018 #161

Yes, Joseph Kennedy III, murielm99 Jan 2018 #71

Young. Democrat. Two strikes..... George II Jan 2018 #84

I hope he's not going to compete with Dem Party Joe Kennedy's response. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #11

We can watch them all on YouTube. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #15

Most people in the country will be watching on tv. I hope he doesn't horn in on the Dem Party's time Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #17

The best way to unite is to quit dividing Democrats. R B Garr Jan 2018 #23

The best way to unite (and I know cause I've been married 54 years) Sophia4 Jan 2018 #25

Not pushing an alternate universe on Democrats is R B Garr Jan 2018 #28

What is meant by "an alternate universe"? Sophia4 Jan 2018 #30

"The only 'alternate' to the Democratic Party lapucelle Jan 2018 #36

When its implied that Democrats are not good enough because R B Garr Jan 2018 #39

I have lived in countries like France, Germany and Austria in which DEMOCRATIC Sophia4 Jan 2018 #50

Lots of people who claim to be socialists didn't vote for Hillary. R B Garr Jan 2018 #55

Deciding who is liberal and who is not. What fun! Sophia4 Jan 2018 #61

All of what you're saying sounds very familliar. You contradict yourself R B Garr Jan 2018 #63

Who you voted for matters here. missingthebigdog Jan 2018 #143

Sage advice, Sophia. sheshe2 Jan 2018 #149

Implying that those who disagree with you are promoting an "authoritarian movement" ehrnst Jan 2018 #74

. WhoIsNumberNone Jan 2018 #19

The more the merrier.. mountain grammy Jan 2018 #29

I'm with you! Sophia4 Jan 2018 #35

Me Also Progressive2020 Jan 2018 #37

Never used to be that way, there was ONE response, ONE strong and pointed response. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #52

Yes, Kennedy will give a good response, I have no doubt. mountain grammy Jan 2018 #54

There are how many Democrats, should they all speak out tonight in a special response? Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #57

So you obtject to Bernie Sanders, I get that. mountain grammy Jan 2018 #90

Go Bernie! Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2018 #38

....... R B Garr Jan 2018 #40

Biden has a problem with the Bankruptcy Bill of 2005 which made additional Sophia4 Jan 2018 #56

These sound like the beginnings of an anti-Biden campaign like we can see at that JPR R B Garr Jan 2018 #60

Biden voted for the Bankruptcy Bill. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #62

These sound like the beginnings of an anti-Biden campaign, the same we saw with the R B Garr Jan 2018 #64

The bankruptcy bill really bit a lot of people hard when the 2008 economic crisis Sophia4 Jan 2018 #65

The facts are that Biden was the most popular in a recent poll. R B Garr Jan 2018 #67

Because I had a job in which I dealt with a lot of people who had been hurt by Sophia4 Jan 2018 #68

Do we get to spam ad nauseam about the negative R B Garr Jan 2018 #101

Yep, wish it wasnt tolerated here though Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #111

I have to cut my toenails while he's on. Darn. Lil Missy Jan 2018 #45

That's two speeches I'll be skipping tonight. Bleacher Creature Jan 2018 #58

Maxine's might be fun to watch too. George II Jan 2018 #88

Me too. Any politician who hides/deflects when asked for transparency by US citizens Wwcd Jan 2018 #127

Thanks..... chillfactor Jan 2018 #106

Thank you! MFM008 Jan 2018 #113

This is pretty much my one stop to learn and discuss everything political.. pangaia Jan 2018 #112

Great. I plan to watch both rebuttals. CentralMass Jan 2018 #114