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cab67

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34. I'm actually part of the higher education system - professor at a large research university.
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 05:23 PM
Mar 2018

I take exception to your assertion that "the researchers at our most prestigious universities" are for sale. I am not, nor have I ever been. I collaborate with geologists, biologists, and physical anthropologists, and none has ever been for sale - even those who've accepted private-sector funding (see below).

Your assertion that we were "a lot more independent back then" is not entirely accurate. I agree that industry-funded research should be viewed carefully, but (a) not all industry-funded research is, by definition, baloney and (b) not all research into transgenic crops is industry-funded.

Most of my research funds are federal (NSF), and none has come from a private company, but I've had friends and colleagues over the years who've gotten support from the private sector. In some cases, it was a disaster - they faced nondisclosure agreements and problems when their results didn't comport with the corporate message - but in most, it was actually very successful. And this was pure, inquiry-based research - not applied science.

And for what it's worth, my colleagues have reported similar problems working with NGOs and state-level agencies. Depending on the political winds, there may be pressure to support a particular party view. But if you've ever encountered a working scientist, you'd know that the vast majority are impossible to silence. We love what we do way too much for that. We may withhold some data if there's a publication embargo, and there are a few who've lost their ethical way (see, e.g., people with advanced degrees who continue to deny global warming; they're a tiny minority, but they exist), but the idea that large numbers of scientists can be made to toe a company line, for any reason, is laughable.

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Can GMOs be patented? Alternative Facts Mar 2018 #4
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Monsantos Dirty Little Secret Alternative Facts Mar 2018 #9
It always seems to be about Monsanto. Why??? longship Mar 2018 #11
An interesting article that discusses the movie Food Evolution. airplaneman Mar 2018 #6
Um, no shenmue Mar 2018 #7
MONSANTO! Drink! Archae Mar 2018 #8
A couple of things that I have read that usually get breezed over... rwsanders Mar 2018 #10
Well, here. longship Mar 2018 #13
If they are safe then why do so many countries ban them? torius Mar 2018 #12
Because they listen to people who are not scientifically literate. longship Mar 2018 #14
They ban it because of common sense gyroscope Mar 2018 #15
That's not really the same thing. cab67 Mar 2018 #16
The EU doesn't ban GMO, but does mandate labeling gyroscope Mar 2018 #17
Problem with labeling - cab67 Mar 2018 #18
That's your opinion. gyroscope Mar 2018 #20
Not opinion. It's science! longship Mar 2018 #22
Sure, if you believe the industry funded "studies" gyroscope Mar 2018 #23
grummmmmmmble...... cab67 Mar 2018 #27
Ah! The Monsanto ploy again. longship Mar 2018 #28
So the WHO are lying? And there's no corporate money flowing into our universities? gyroscope Mar 2018 #30
Okay. longship Mar 2018 #31
I disagree with one of your claims cab67 Mar 2018 #26
Over 60% of your genes are shared with the Cavendish banana. longship Mar 2018 #29
that's not what transgenic means. cab67 Mar 2018 #33
But I don't think one can argue that they're qualitatively different. longship Mar 2018 #35
no. cab67 Mar 2018 #24
The difference is gyroscope Mar 2018 #32
I'm actually part of the higher education system - professor at a large research university. cab67 Mar 2018 #34
Interesting gyroscope Mar 2018 #37
A better idea cab67 Mar 2018 #38
That could work too gyroscope Mar 2018 #39
some sincere advice - cab67 Mar 2018 #40
To clarify gyroscope Mar 2018 #41
Also - cab67 Mar 2018 #19
Did I say they were? gyroscope Mar 2018 #21
you keep coming back to the issue of Monsanto's trustworthiness. cab67 Mar 2018 #25
dupe gyroscope Mar 2018 #36
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