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TomVilmer

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18. The walk out is now hailed as a Reagan Moment, but...
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 01:57 PM
Feb 2019

... an American Conservative has a better memory about 1986 and The Art Of The Deal then. Gorbachev had offered to eliminate all strategic forces, not just ballistic missiles. Reagan then countered that it would be fine with him if they could agree to eliminate all nuclear weapons. They almost had an agreement, but then president Ronald Reagan walked out, clinging to his Star Wars project:

What's interesting is that Reagan's decision not to give up on SDI is arguably one of the biggest missed opportunities in the history of arms control. Ever since, it has been hailed and built up in Republican mythology as an example of what Reagan got right dealing with the Soviets.

It would be easy enough to dismiss such selective memory of how Reagan related to Gorbachev as more of the usual ideological Reaganolatry that is unfortunately so common, but it becomes more meaningful when this distorted interpretation of Reagan's second term is used to mislead the audience into thinking that Reagan was opposed to diplomatic flexibility.

In fact, the failure of the Reykjavik summit encouraged flexibility on both sides.

Despite the apparent failure at Reykjavik the two parties resumed negotiations and the following year signed the INF treaty, totally eliminating the intermediate range missiles. By 1991 the two sides agreed on a START treaty that cut the US and Soviet nuclear arsenals by 80% over the next decade.

But they could have eliminated all nuclear weapons...

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That sums it up in a nutshell. DesertRat Feb 2019 #1
Boy, your signature gif of Nancy's sarcastic clap True Dough Feb 2019 #19
It's amazing how often Nancy's clap fits into threads these days DesertRat Feb 2019 #22
Kick dalton99a Feb 2019 #2
bwaaahahahaha!!! yuiyoshida Feb 2019 #3
Great summation! llmart Feb 2019 #4
Perfect. The president's an idiot. nt littlemissmartypants Feb 2019 #5
How come his hair looks brown coming off the plane and it's back to blond in the pics w/ Kim? tanyev Feb 2019 #6
I wondered that, too. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2019 #30
The Art of Ordeal camelfan Feb 2019 #7
He got played twice by this guy now. It's sort of amazing how dumb Trump is. Johonny Feb 2019 #8
It's Like Watching Bugs Bunny Repeatedly Make A Fool Of Elmer Fudd nt smb Feb 2019 #13
best pic though is donnie in the kiddie chair. unblock Feb 2019 #9
Thanks, EarlG! B Stieg Feb 2019 #10
Makes me worry a bit more about Cohen's prediction that Dump won't go easily erronis Feb 2019 #11
Yup Sherman A1 Feb 2019 #12
Another classic! dchill Feb 2019 #14
AKA: no Nobel Prize for you, Treasonous Surrender Monkey. Hassler Feb 2019 #15
havent watched the asshole walking down steps much but he looked decrepit doing that in korea.... certainot Feb 2019 #16
Guys? JuJuYoshida Feb 2019 #17
... happybird Feb 2019 #26
The walk out is now hailed as a Reagan Moment, but... TomVilmer Feb 2019 #18
How long before we find out this was all pre-planned by putin duforsure Feb 2019 #20
almost exact except you forgot dotard at the end of Kim's sentence! oldlibdem Feb 2019 #21
K & R SunSeeker Feb 2019 #23
Chump - you get nothing!!! Initech Feb 2019 #24
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The Art of the Deal sandensea Feb 2019 #28
But they still love each other right? n/t hibbing Feb 2019 #29
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