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In reply to the discussion: What mormons really believe [View all]patrice
(47,992 posts)short-circuiting because (like the Bible and religion in general) all of these words, words, words, and more words cranked out by anyone and everyone ((as long as they play whatever the current word game is that pretends that words and what words (ONLY) refer to are the same identity, i.e. the same thing, so everyone keeps repeating the same mistakes, intentionally or otherwise)) ... all of these words MISS the point that one CAN see in the life of a man named Yeshua, a.k.a. Lord Jesus, and so many many other "saints": DEEDS are our true words. Deeds are the means by which we create what is referred to as "heaven" and/or "hell" here and now and, because of those phenomenological facts, project those deeds and their effects into the future.
So: What we do matters (not so much the words) and if what you do, e.g. unlimited procreation and exploitation of others, including discrimination against women, plus unlimited wealth acquisition, . . . that is, if what you do enslaves others, then you are anti-life no matter how many babies you make.
But my point in bringing this up is that I suspect if I were able to point these facts out to the LDS pope/gods, they'd say ALL of that IS as it should be, BECAUSE THEY ARE HEADED SOMEWHERE ELSE ANYWAY and the only way to get there is to die, so the sooner the better for most life, you're actually doing them a favor by letting them die, or letting them be killed, because they all belong to the elect/gods anyway, who are headed elsewhere.
See my point? It's a perfectly self-justifying circle.
I'm trying to be open minded, but it appears rather pernicious, but then perhaps not a lot more so than many other religions.