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LiberalLovinLug

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44. The biggest hurdle is education on convincing Americans that health care would be cheaper
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 02:09 PM
Dec 2019

despite the less take home money from your cheque. To show them that it is like contributing to a much larger pool than their own private insurer, thus less cost per person. Add to that, no middle man, or executives or shareholders to scoop off their take. Plus no pleading with insurance companies for coverage as their job is to DENY you, because they work for their companies bottom line. And its 10x harder to educate the public with not only Fox News and RW radio and internet spouting fake news about it, but the MSM networks as well. I still remember Doctor Gupta on CNN smearing single payer and lauding the private system every day during the debates before the ACA.

More than that, its convincing many Americans that Big Gob'mint will do it right, or that its not just another excuse for another tax and less money in their pocket, for some big boondoggle that they don't need. Especially with the push back from the News media, Republicans, PLUS some older respected Democrats who take donations from those corporations. Add to that the more lucrative hospitals and doctors. There is a huge steep unfair playing field just to get anything passed. It would have to be embraced by enough Republicans as well. It would take a 10 + year commitment. If Republicans would stop playing games of pushing buttons, and instead stood by the conservative mandate of reducing household costs for families, and businesses too BTW, they would get behind it.

As a Canadian that has my Medicare, I don't think many Americans understand that its not just a monetary thing, although you would on average pay half of what you do now. Which that chart does not show. Its also effects the national psychology in general in a very positive way. When everyone in a country doesn't even have to think about what happens if they get sick or injured, for their kids, or themselves. All their lives. It is a whole other way of living. There is no such thing as "pre-existing conditions". Here its called your "medical history". Also, we never use the word "insurance" in regards to our medical services, what does insurance have to do with a human right? Anyways, I just think that many Americans do not appreciate what that kind of peace of mind can do to help you be successful in other areas of your life. I mean how can you? I just want the same for you, my friends down there.




There's a reason why some countries are higher on the happiness charts. Although the UK is a bit of an outlier. Grumpy Limeys.



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MSNBC works to help the Democratic Party, Michael Moore works to damage it Clash City Rocker Dec 2019 #1
Exactly! justie18 Dec 2019 #3
Early prediction validation. KPN Dec 2019 #4
Totally agree! redstatebluegirl Dec 2019 #11
If by "Democratic Party" you mean politicians who are funded by corporations ProfessorPlum Dec 2019 #20
If you want to spin the Democratic Party as some evil entity Clash City Rocker Dec 2019 #22
My party right or wrong eh? ihaveaquestion Dec 2019 #24
You may want to review the forum rules Clash City Rocker Dec 2019 #25
Thank you! True Blue American Dec 2019 #35
I think M. Moore is trying to help defeat Trump. ihaveaquestion Dec 2019 #48
WTF bonniebgood Dec 2019 #23
Define "the Democratic Party". guillaumeb Dec 2019 #29
+1. yonder Dec 2019 #42
++++ still_one Dec 2019 #30
K n R ! Thanks for posting! JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #2
Right on, Michael Moore mudstump Dec 2019 #5
I appreciate Michael Moore. mountain grammy Dec 2019 #6
Last time I checked Chuckie Todd was jefe at MSNBC pecosbob Dec 2019 #7
Michael Moore is my kind of centrist. BuffaloJackalope Dec 2019 #8
Everything my homeboy said is absolutely correct Leith Dec 2019 #9
Thanks for that story. That's awful after such a tragedy LiberalLovinLug Dec 2019 #41
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #10
I turn MSNBC off anytime Michael Moore is on Gothmog Dec 2019 #12
Ugh, Moore is the biggest pusher of the 'poor widdle white working class' radius777 Dec 2019 #13
This is an ignorant and ugly post ProfessorPlum Dec 2019 #19
Spot on! RobertDevereaux Dec 2019 #14
Agreed - Michael Moore is absolutely right! Gumboot Dec 2019 #15
But when you tell them they're going to take home ten to twenty thousand dollars LESS Lock him up. Dec 2019 #16
look at the Russia stats RussBLib Dec 2019 #26
I don't think it's the average Joe Russian who's pushing the head of the Lock him up. Dec 2019 #52
Your chart appears to refute your point Fiendish Thingy Dec 2019 #27
I (in US) make right around average, and I don't 'take home' as high a % as represented there mr_lebowski Dec 2019 #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #51
That's an average, so it's kind of not general, but I agree with Lock him up. Dec 2019 #53
Swapping the huge portion of my paycheck that goes to private insurance ... DBoon Dec 2019 #37
Must be nice being 'neutral' and thus having almost zero military as I assume the Swiss do not ... mr_lebowski Dec 2019 #38
The biggest hurdle is education on convincing Americans that health care would be cheaper LiberalLovinLug Dec 2019 #44
I fully agree with that, but it's the convincing and then implementing part Lock him up. Dec 2019 #54
He's so right on. I'm so glad he's out there doing and saying to the public what I too believe. YOHABLO Dec 2019 #17
My Hope for the Democratic Party.... McKim Dec 2019 #18
MSNBC is corporate "news". Nuff said. Magoo48 Dec 2019 #21
Recommended. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #28
Who is Michael Moore? The guy who did all he could to beachbumbob Dec 2019 #31
No he's the award winning documentary film maker LiberalLovinLug Dec 2019 #45
I turn the channel when MM is on. lynintenn Dec 2019 #32
Moore alerted that Trump could win 2016. I would take his insights seriously. Auggie Dec 2019 #34
There is a lot of Moore-bashing here. Is it because he warned us that Assface would win? CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #36
+1000 LiberalLovinLug Dec 2019 #46
Thank you. MuseRider Dec 2019 #39
I agree LiberalLovinLug Dec 2019 #47
Love Michael Moore. Always thoughtful and interesting. scipan Dec 2019 #40
I predict another Moore invitational banishment. GOOD ! stonecutter357 Dec 2019 #43
I agree with Michael Moore janterry Dec 2019 #49
Moore does speak for middle cp Dec 2019 #50
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