Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Video & Multimedia
In reply to the discussion: Pic Of The Moment: Trump Supporters React To The News That He Hid The Truth About Coronavirus [View all]ancianita
(43,310 posts)43. Fascism is also a feeling that Trumpists feel, needing a "perceived"strong man leader.
Which Trump knows. He knows this has happened before. This is a cultural review of people's receptivity to fascist messaging.
And what moved them, in Knausgaards view, was not the Nazis promise to redistribute income, or Hitlers analysis of world affairs, or even, initially, their hatred of the Jews. What moved them was, rather, the joyful feeling of togetherness and community, of being able to transcend not only the fragmented democracy of the Weimar period but politics altogether.
In National Socialism, writes Knausgaard, philosophy and politics come together at a point outside the language, and beyond the rational, where all complexity ceases, though not all depth. Riefenstahls film [Triumph of the Will]communicates the pleasure the people experiencedhow good it felt to themat having escaped the quotidian chaos of their shabby republic and their trivial private lives, at being liberated from the restrictions of rationality and deliberation, at being on the brink of achieving something large and lasting, deep and simple.
In National Socialism, writes Knausgaard, philosophy and politics come together at a point outside the language, and beyond the rational, where all complexity ceases, though not all depth. Riefenstahls film [Triumph of the Will]communicates the pleasure the people experiencedhow good it felt to themat having escaped the quotidian chaos of their shabby republic and their trivial private lives, at being liberated from the restrictions of rationality and deliberation, at being on the brink of achieving something large and lasting, deep and simple.
Beginning not long after the 2016 election with the historian Timothy Snyders bestseller Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century (2017), soon followed by the philosopher Jason Stanleys How Fascism Works: The Politics of Us and Them (2018), numerous scholars have sought to use historical analysis of the Weimar period to alert Americans to the early signs of fascistic rule. As the Trump presidency has dragged on, these urgent warnings have given way to a wide-ranging debate, including in these pages, about whether such historical analogies are warranted or appropriate.
Understood in relation to that debate, Malicks and Knausgaards artistic treatments of Nazism may persuade us not of the inaccuracy or inappropriateness of such analogies, but of their utter and complete futilityat least insofar as it is claimed such comparisons can inoculate us against repetition. In their focus on the emotional pull of Nazismits promise to liberate citizens from the frustrations and banalities of an alienated, lonely existence, to connect them with a mass of like-minded souls in unconditional joythe works of Malick and Knausgaard expose us to aspects of how fascism works that it would be laughable to think could yield to academic analysis, no matter how accessibly arranged.
Establish a private life, warns Snyder. Listen for dangerous words. Do we really imagine it was advice such as this that interwar Germans lacked?
Understood in relation to that debate, Malicks and Knausgaards artistic treatments of Nazism may persuade us not of the inaccuracy or inappropriateness of such analogies, but of their utter and complete futilityat least insofar as it is claimed such comparisons can inoculate us against repetition. In their focus on the emotional pull of Nazismits promise to liberate citizens from the frustrations and banalities of an alienated, lonely existence, to connect them with a mass of like-minded souls in unconditional joythe works of Malick and Knausgaard expose us to aspects of how fascism works that it would be laughable to think could yield to academic analysis, no matter how accessibly arranged.
Establish a private life, warns Snyder. Listen for dangerous words. Do we really imagine it was advice such as this that interwar Germans lacked?
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2020/08/14/the-unbearable-toward-an-antifascist-aesthetic/?fbclid=IwAR0JbfH134TAdSyZhKQgtp7vgFZgM8QFQ7jqwYMg_yt_YAopymHHNL4zIyo
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
Recommendations
0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):
43 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Pic Of The Moment: Trump Supporters React To The News That He Hid The Truth About Coronavirus [View all]
EarlG
Sep 2020
OP
GOP dirtbag vultures like Tom Cotton and Nikki Haley are circling the corpse of Trump
vlyons
Sep 2020
#3
Oh, my. . Nobody said it was an actual pic. Clearly understood to be an accurate representation
niyad
Sep 2020
#17
Fascism is also a feeling that Trumpists feel, needing a "perceived"strong man leader.
ancianita
Sep 2020
#43