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27. Ukrainians have had an independent

Thu Feb 17, 2022, 02:55 PM

Feb 2022

Country in the past and have been fighting off foreign powers for over 500 years. Your point is not valid. To accept your point is saying every country in the world has a claim over others. I call bullshit.

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Ex-U.S. Ambassador to USSR: Ukraine Crisis Stems Directly from Post-Cold War Push to Expand NATO [View all] Uncle Joe Feb 2022 OP

That is the trump/Putin argument, and it is nonesense. Not surprised this is coming from JohnSJ Feb 2022 #1

It's coming from Former Ambassador Jack Matlock, Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #2

Please spare me a Joe. An ambassador under bush and Reagan. And it has nothing to do with JohnSJ Feb 2022 #3

So are all Ambassadors suspect now depending on which President they served under? Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #5

This has nothing to do with NATO expansion, that is pure president for life, Putin propaganda JohnSJ Feb 2022 #7

Putin, Putin, Putin on a river, Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #10

Is it really? JohnSJ Feb 2022 #13

Yes. I believe our focus should be expanded to the Russian People. Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #14

Focus also on the price of a barril of oil. Putin and Russia have already won on that front. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #24

Wouldn't that same reasoning apply to all the major oil/fossil fuel people regardless of nation? Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #34

Exactly, and probably why we aren't hearing about it on the M$M. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #35

Well this article is a bit dated so I'm wondering how much things have changed since April 2020? Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #36

That's why I added the charts, so you could see the change, about a 50% increase. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #37

And so much of it can't be burned without destroying life as we know it. Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #38

Not just "former ambassador" but former ambassador to the USSR, which hasn't existed for 31 years... George II Feb 2022 #16

The Cuban Missile Crisis was about sixty years ago, do you believe Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #18

Has nothing to do with this discussion. Right now Russia is massing troops and military equipment... George II Feb 2022 #31

National Security on NATO expansion is a good article to read. marie999 Feb 2022 #4

Indeed Republicans are quick to blame America first. comradebillyboy Feb 2022 #6

NATO Is a defensive organization blue-wave Feb 2022 #8

Exactly. It is interesting they talk to an ex-ambassador to the USSR under Reagan and bush JohnSJ Feb 2022 #11

Better than following George W. Bush's polices. n/t Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #12

Equally bad. JohnSJ Feb 2022 #15

Not between the U.S. and Soviet Union/Russia Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #19

There have been no disputes between the US and Soviet Union for at least 31 years, and now.... George II Feb 2022 #22

Ukrainians have had an independent blue-wave Feb 2022 #27

My point is not valid? The point of the speaker in the OP's video is that the current friction... George II Feb 2022 #28

Precisely to George W. Bush's statement on April 1st 2008 as I referred to on post #25 n/t Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #29

Indeed, and he was an ambassador to a country that no longer exists but formerly contained Ukraine. George II Feb 2022 #17

Maybe not NATO as a whole, but NATO countries have invaded other countries marie999 Feb 2022 #23

Again, NATO has not blue-wave Feb 2022 #26

The NATO organization itself is defensive. If you're referring to the US "invading" Vietnam... George II Feb 2022 #30

Why did you post a video that blames the US and NATO for the current Ukraine crisis? George II Feb 2022 #9

I took it as blaming George W. Bush's foreign policies. n/t Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #20

It is blaming the expansion of NATO, which is not governed only by American foreign policy.... George II Feb 2022 #21

George W. Bush called for it on April 1st during the last year of his Presidency 2008 and then Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #25

THIS. FreepFryer Feb 2022 #32

Look what you made me do prodigitalson Feb 2022 #40

I ask.... McKim Feb 2022 #33

What an incredibly ironic name prodigitalson Feb 2022 #39

What an incredibly ironic defense of democracy Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #41

Well that was as clear as mud. nt prodigitalson Feb 2022 #42

Did you actually view the video? n/t Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #44

Fascinating discussion; thanks, Uncle Joe. elleng Feb 2022 #43

elleng Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #45

I hate it when people do Putin's work for him LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #46