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limpyhobbler

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29. They have an "8 weeks" theme going on...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:49 AM
Nov 2012
http://www.aflcio.org/Get-Involved/Protect-Our-Future

Letting the Bush tax cuts expire on Dec 31 could be a good option.

Or, Obama and Boehner might try for a deal in the next 8 weeks.

Obama has made a public comment that the sequestration 'will not happen'. The deadline for that is Jan 2. So it seems they are trying to come up with a deal before Jan 2, 2013. (Is that the correct date?)

Also
Both sides have acknowledged the need to avoid the fiscal cliff — the tax increases and spending cuts that will take effect starting in January if Congress does not act and that will total nearly $700 billion next year alone...
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/opinion/the-fiscal-cliff-opener.html

Pretty clearly if it's $700 billion in spending cuts next year alone that could have an effect on the economy, so there is some pressure to avoid it by coming up with a deal.

So I think the AFL-CIO and others are not necessarily wrong to focus on right now as the time to express our views to the Congress and the President.

There is also a good chance the President and Congress come up with a temporary deal and punt it down the field a few months.

I don't think anybody knows what is going to happen.

If people want their programs protected this is as good a time as any to speak out about it.

Clearly the President views cutting these programs as negotiable.


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Obama's "Grand Bargain" Delusion [View all] limpyhobbler Nov 2012 OP
I won't watch your video, but I can imagine what it's about. My biggest hope is that folks like you Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #1
We Have Eight Weeks to Protect Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #2
It is a shell game BlueStreak Nov 2012 #4
That seems pretty sensible limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #9
Yes. Absolutely. mmonk Nov 2012 #24
8 weeks? The fiscal cliff has been pushed until Spring of 2013... joshcryer Nov 2012 #23
The sequestration takes effect Jan 2, 2013, doesn't it? limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #25
The immediate effects are minimal. joshcryer Nov 2012 #26
The "8 weeks" came from the AFL-CIO blog post, limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #27
That's what I don't like about that blog post. joshcryer Nov 2012 #28
They have an "8 weeks" theme going on... limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #29
I think there's zero chance the Congress compromises until after they expire. joshcryer Nov 2012 #30
Well at least y'all aren't even pretending to not hate OWS anymore. JoeyT Nov 2012 #6
I can't speak for "yall", but find a post where I "pretended" that I gave a shit about OWS. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #12
please do not interact with me at all in the future. limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #13
Then you probably shouldn't post then. AFAIK, this is a discussion board. Of course, you don't... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #14
ok fine. if you insist. Are you ok with Obama cutting social security benefits as part of a deal? limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #15
If he can explain why, and how much it will impact the beneficiary to my satisfaction, then Yes! Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #16
Sir, you disgust me. All Social Security cutters please be gone from my sight. limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #17
Why? Because you might have to work a couple of years longer before you retire to... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #18
Anyone who advocates cutting social security benefits should leave the Democratic Party and leave limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #19
Anyone who doesn't accept reality, should be shot into out of space, or join the Green Party. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #21
Reality: There are ways to save money without cutting vital public services. limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #22
I watched the video. My biggest hope is that the fiscal hawks worried about Medicare allow Drug Vincardog Nov 2012 #3
Yes, please. limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #8
Agreed except don't raise the cap Eliminate it and apply it to Financial gains too. Why should Vincardog Nov 2012 #10
exactly. nt limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #11
Obama "grand bargain" hahaha gutierrez Nov 2012 #5
Bullshit dcmfox Nov 2012 #20
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