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viva la

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29. I can see roundabouts like many in the UK--
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 05:24 PM
Aug 2023

... where 6 ancient "pikes" meet in some rural area, and traffic lights would not work.

But wherever there are a lot of pedestrians and cyclists-- how will it work?

I was in a smallish (12K pop maybe) midwestern town, and the main street (as is common) is a state highway. The town was trying to highlight its cute downtown (along Main Street) and bring in antique shoppers. There were 4 antique shops in one block just past the city hall, 2 on the north side of the street, and 2 on the south.

There was a roundabout a block from where the little downtown started (east of town) and another on the west side of downtown. So there were about 4 blocks, all cute little town Main Street, between the roundabouts.

We were on the north side of the street, antique shopping. Went to the two shoppes (of course, they were shoppes) there on that side of the street. Went to the corner to cross to go to the other 2 shoppes.

Waited 10 minutes. No joke. A state highway has constant traffic, often including semis. Without stoplights, there was no break in traffic. You have a stoplight (or even stop sign) on either side of downtown, every minute or so there's enough of a break that you can walk across the street.

But with the roundabouts never stopping traffic, there was no break. It wasn't safe even to start across the street. Semis can't just stop on a dime, after all.
I can just imagine what it was like to live there. You live north of downtown? You can't plan to walk to the cafe on the south side of the street.

Even for drivers-- if you're coming in to an intersection without a roundabout, there's no break for you to turn left or drive through.

Roundabouts are designed to limit the emissions of cars (good), and to make travel more efficient for drivers. In car-heavy suburban arteries, and in rural areas, they help with that.
They really aren't good for walkers or bikers. To put them in an area where you want foot traffic is going to cause major problems.

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I HATE roundabouts! Jilly_in_VA Aug 2023 #1
I hate them too. honest.abe Aug 2023 #11
I do, too. They are dangerous, usually poorly marked, spooky3 Aug 2023 #12
We just got two of these. Multiple accidents most days. FuzzyRabbit Aug 2023 #21
Mega, mega DITTO!!!!! Scottie Mom Aug 2023 #14
We're getting lots of them in central Florida jimfields33 Aug 2023 #19
They've been integrated in much of Colorado's front range cities for decades BUT hlthe2b Aug 2023 #2
Thanks. I love rotaries/traffic circles/roundabouts. Wash. DC has many of them. erronis Aug 2023 #3
I hate them and I cannot believe they are safer,,,, KarenS Aug 2023 #4
Traffic lights, install, repair, replace, move...make more money for corporations? Alexander Of Assyria Aug 2023 #5
I love them, been around round-abouts almost all of my life (STLMO). The reason they're hated is SWBTATTReg Aug 2023 #6
If it takes extra knowledge and experience to safely navigate them they shouldn't be used. honest.abe Aug 2023 #13
Amen. FuzzyRabbit Aug 2023 #22
IMO they are a nightmare for pedestrians cuz drivers are in a "I don't have to stop" mode. CrispyQ Aug 2023 #7
There's a roundabout by me that has one of the highest accident rates in the county Siwsan Aug 2023 #8
Too many selfish/ignorant drivers who won't or don't understand "yield" Auggie Aug 2023 #9
I hate them! pazzyanne Aug 2023 #10
Not good everywhere catchnrelease Aug 2023 #15
First in 1990? Jeebo Aug 2023 #16
I remember roundabouts in Boston in the 70s. viva la Aug 2023 #31
There was one in Cherry Hill, New Jersey back in 1994. Collimator Aug 2023 #17
We have a few in our area. My biggest complaint is that some drivers rurallib Aug 2023 #18
Love them Cherokee100 Aug 2023 #20
Just takes getting used to them. If you grow up with intersections/traffic lights... brush Aug 2023 #23
I LOVE roundabouts! Gruenemann Aug 2023 #24
Have you attempted one while towing a trailer? How about a commercial truck? nt Mopar151 Aug 2023 #26
They are perfectly designed to handle large trucks Quixote1818 Aug 2023 #33
In rural areas. viva la Aug 2023 #30
The "safety advocates" that think these things are great.... Mopar151 Aug 2023 #25
Nope. They have truck aprons Quixote1818 Aug 2023 #34
How about with traffic? Or snow banks? Mopar151 Aug 2023 #35
There are a lot of roundabouts near me Laurelin Aug 2023 #27
Not a fan; our double ones are on a fire emergency route. Backseat Driver Aug 2023 #28
I can see roundabouts like many in the UK-- viva la Aug 2023 #29
I like them and they save a lot of lives. Nt Quixote1818 Aug 2023 #32
Post removed Post removed Aug 2023 #36
I never claimed to be boss. Just a regular DU commenter Quixote1818 Aug 2023 #37
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