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41. Very uncomfortable hearing Democrats buy into the Republican framing. I remember that Ed segment.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 12:29 PM
Dec 2012

It is very disturbing when I hear Democrats buy into the Republican framing--

>>> Republican "sacrifice" = We ask rich people to pay a little more

>>> Democratic sacrifice = Impose more cuts in addition to the trillion already imposed on the poor and middle class in the president's first tem

Both Parties Sacrifice by asking the millionaires and billionaires who donate to their campaigns to pay more. (Democrats shouldn't be denied that sacrifice just because Republicans have allowed the Koch Brothers to inflame and fund an activist fringe of their party that primaried-out their most experienced and more moderate legislators.)

Plouffe should be smart enough to frame things much better, more in keeping with the election victory.

Republican sacrifice =
(1) Approve a $700 billion jobs program to reinforce our infrastructure and green our power grids in keeping with the magnitude of climate change we have seen, even though putting people back to work will improve the economy and make the Democratic administration look good.
(2) Agree to cut the military budget by 35%, with a serious cost benefit analysis of the privatization of military services versus returning to pre-Dick Cheney days of doing more in-house.

Democratic sacrifice =
(1) Dare to remind Republicans of the big cuts already made to programs that help the poor and middle class. Remind them that that round of austerity did not improve our economy. It was only the little bit of stimulus the president was allowed that helped us.
(2) Propose a tiny transaction tax on Wall Street trading, even though Democratic legislators depend on their campaign contributions too.
(3) Gather the courage to propose a constitutional amendment that corporations are not people.
(4) Democrats could accept smaller scale spending, and cuts to the military, but that still buys into the Republican framing that they are the fiscally responsible party when they have already proven how reckless they are by running up deficits while their administrations are in power, and then railing against them when they lose the presidency.
(5) Give up playing along with Republicans on raising the debt ceiling being a meaningful dispute.
(6) Dare to remind Republicans that Democratic Ideas Won, even though media pundits may call you peevish and want to pretend that austerity is the way to go. A majority of people voted for the president because he promised not to impose austerity and trumpeted his stimulus programs. The pundits know austerity has not worked and they have the information to understand that government spending is a good investment in our economy. We need to stop pretending.

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WHY ? 02potato Dec 2012 #1
Plouffe can fuck himself. He's made of money. He's going to hell when he dies roguevalley Dec 2012 #35
Ed again spells it out completely- suzanner Dec 2012 #2
He says that to a crowd of college students. I don't like that. madfloridian Dec 2012 #4
David Plouffe is an idiot Angry Dragon Dec 2012 #3
No, WE'RE the idiots Doctor_J Dec 2012 #7
As long as you are speaking for yourself Angry Dragon Dec 2012 #26
Well, I guess you could be insane Doctor_J Dec 2012 #36
Care to respond to what I asked in my post?? Angry Dragon Dec 2012 #37
I did. You said you're not an idiot Doctor_J Dec 2012 #38
Yes,to compare Medicare to the defense budget..ludicrous. madfloridian Dec 2012 #8
How long will abortion rights and immigration keep us coming to the polls? Doctor_J Dec 2012 #5
The minute "entitlement reform" came flying out of his mouth Catherina Dec 2012 #6
This bozo is full of shit. He's just selling austerity for his rich handlers, I think. The debt byeya Dec 2012 #9
Why does the Right never have to accept tough things? jmowreader Dec 2012 #10
but but but what about the job creators? They won't create jobs. sarcasm thing here. xtraxritical Dec 2012 #32
Do you really want to create shitloads of jobs? jmowreader Dec 2012 #39
Short and simple. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #11
If Democrats cut entitlements it will end the Party. I can see the Republican ads right plethoro Dec 2012 #14
I just can't imagine a Democratic former_con Dec 2012 #21
Fairness to a fascist is simply a bothersome nuisance.....Well plethoro Dec 2012 #30
I agree to a certain extent former_con Dec 2012 #15
I agree with what you have said. One thing people are not plethoro Dec 2012 #17
I used to be former_con Dec 2012 #18
No. The Republicans are against cutting social safety nets. There was a poll posted here plethoro Dec 2012 #29
+100 n/t whathehell Dec 2012 #27
Medicare is a right.. former_con Dec 2012 #12
The same for Social Security - workers pay for it. xtraxritical Dec 2012 #33
madfloridian, Mr. Plouffe is a master in election politics. What entitlement? saidsimplesimon Dec 2012 #13
You know you can't get that right? former_con Dec 2012 #19
former_con saidsimplesimon Dec 2012 #24
You do understand that YOU are saying you have an entitlement don't you? The word means: Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #22
Bluenorthwest, an entitlement is something unearned. I've saidsimplesimon Dec 2012 #23
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/entitlement xtraxritical Dec 2012 #34
David Plouffe JEB Dec 2012 #16
I totally agree on the former_con Dec 2012 #20
BS. It is the war dept and the tax cuts driving the deficit. Use single payer to fix healthcare cost on point Dec 2012 #25
I wonder if any students at that college questioned his premise? madfloridian Dec 2012 #28
Harm the Party? SoCal Socialist Dec 2012 #31
But of course! idwiyo Dec 2012 #40
Very uncomfortable hearing Democrats buy into the Republican framing. I remember that Ed segment. Overseas Dec 2012 #41
Great comparison of Democratic and Republican "sacrifice" madfloridian Dec 2012 #42
Thank you. Overseas Dec 2012 #43
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