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DutchLiberal

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54. Women don't want to hear it, so we just pretend biology doesn't exist. Got it!
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 08:11 PM
Apr 2012

Why is it that, for the biggest part of history, older men (in their thirties or even forties) married young women half their age? For tens of thousands of years this happened. Because young women are more fertile and thus more appealing to men, who have to produce offspring. You know, to keep the species from going extinct. And yes, we have evolved over thousands of years; we live longer now; we don't HAVE to pick younger women anymore; thanks to technology women can have kids at high age nowadays; we even have birth control now, so we don't HAVE to get kids if we don't want to. All true. But all that doesn't mean that evolutionary speaking, we're still wired that way. We still have that instinct. We still think young women are more attractive (physically, I mean). But because we are SUPPOSED to not think that way anymore, we pretend this is not true. Because women don't want to hear all that, we pretend that men who do follow their nature to be "rather stupid and dense and shallow". We blame men for how they are biologically wired, because self-imposed, made-up societal mores dictate that we are too exalted to acknowledge our true nature. (You know some people even don't want to acknowledge we're mammals; that we're animals, really.)

Who ever said we should drop a hot chick when she gets older? Did I say that? Please quote me on that. You'll have a hard time finding such a quote, because there is none. That's an assumption you made, a caricature you needed to paint me as "rather stupid and dense and shallow", because I was pointing out how arbitrary some societal mores are, and some people just can't handle it when that's pointed out. So they resort to strawmen.

I'm not Newt Gingrich, so I'm not saying that whenever a woman gets older we should drop her. All I'm saying is that, when we look at physical beauty, and physical beauty alone (not regarding all the other traits women have to offer, like intellectual stimulation, or humor, or caring etc.), young women are more attractive to men than older women. No matter what age category the guy is in. And it's completely natural for an old(er) man to be more attracted to a young woman than to a woman his age, when it comes to physical appearance. But because women won't acknowledge that biological fact, we have to pretend such men are creepy or icky, because society has told us so for the past 150 years or so. (All the men in the tens of thousands of years before that must all have been sick and twisted pervs.)

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Have you ever wanted to Date someone [View all] Giantsfootball10 Apr 2012 OP
Feel good now, feel bad later (if she'll have you) NightWatcher Apr 2012 #1
If you want to date her, go for it! CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2012 #2
If you don't ask, you cloudbase Apr 2012 #3
Go for it - cliffordu Apr 2012 #4
Stay away from my Mom, dude. Seriously. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #5
She is too young for you. kwassa Apr 2012 #6
So what if the relationship eventually ends? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #9
Well, there could be a broken heart involved. blueamy66 Apr 2012 #62
If you have to ask, Moondog Apr 2012 #7
You're only saying that because society says that's what you're "supposed" to say. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #10
Old men are ugly too. Once their faces start looking like their nutsac? alphafemale Apr 2012 #16
True that. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #17
screw that alphafemale Apr 2012 #21
I would love to rec your post!!!!! lunatica Apr 2012 #44
that's a new one for me blueamy66 Apr 2012 #63
I find your comment really stupid lunatica Apr 2012 #43
Women don't want to hear it, so we just pretend biology doesn't exist. Got it! DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #54
So do we though treestar Apr 2012 #90
that's just your opinion nickinSTL Apr 2012 #47
See, you're talking about something totally different than me. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #55
Gee, women really can't win, can we? WildEyedLiberal Apr 2012 #58
Thanks, I forgot to point that out. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #59
on re-reading that, you're right nickinSTL Apr 2012 #64
surely you jest Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #24
There is no such thing as a too big age difference. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #8
Half your age plus seven. bluedigger Apr 2012 #11
According to whom? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #18
I believe it's traditional Chinese wisdom. bluedigger Apr 2012 #23
Why should I have to explain or defend my interest in the topic to you? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #28
You keep saying "she's HOT." Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #12
You're of the age HeiressofBickworth Apr 2012 #13
Men DO think with their little heads. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #19
The same go for the women dating younger men. HappyMe Apr 2012 #27
Anecdotally speaking OriginalGeek Apr 2012 #67
I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #70
The BS about biology treestar Apr 2012 #91
there's no rhyme or reason to attraction lovemydog Apr 2012 #14
Looks, age, etc. - no matter what, don't ask out someone where they work. harmonicon Apr 2012 #15
Ask her out for coffee. HappyMe Apr 2012 #20
As Groucho said... Scuba Apr 2012 #22
You sound creepy nobodyspecial Apr 2012 #25
You don't even know the guy, for God's sake! DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #29
Defend all you want, but a person who values and respects women nobodyspecial Apr 2012 #31
That was my first reaction as well. noamnety Apr 2012 #33
On the other hand... pipi_k Apr 2012 #34
I'm not above noticing a man's looks or physique nobodyspecial Apr 2012 #35
Oooh, so you are one of those holier-than-thou people who have to let others know they're unworthy? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #38
Yes, that's exactly what I said. nobodyspecial Apr 2012 #41
So praising a woman for her good looks is DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #36
Hmm... You certainly have been awfully involved and defensive in this post nobodyspecial Apr 2012 #40
You're making a caricature out of something that isn't there. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #50
OK as long as you don't get mad if a woman wants to know how much money you make. treestar Apr 2012 #92
A few points: Chan790 Apr 2012 #26
Why is it impolite how ask somebody out where they work? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #30
Okay, I'll explain it. Chan790 Apr 2012 #32
You lost me in the first line when you stepped out of reality. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #37
Don't be so defensive. I agree with Chan. harmonicon Apr 2012 #49
No, coercion is holding a gun to her head and saying: "you wanna go out with me?" DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #51
You're definitely missing the point by leaps and bounds. harmonicon Apr 2012 #53
Nobody is forcing anybody to do anything. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #57
A point-by-point refutation of you. Chan790 Apr 2012 #60
A refutation of your refutation. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #68
We're going to have to agree to disagree then. Chan790 Apr 2012 #75
Some things don't need any explanation. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #76
Where I'm from... Chan790 Apr 2012 #80
No, I've explained at great lenghts how your textbook theories don't apply in the real world. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #82
... Chan790 Apr 2012 #83
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #84
What part of this do you not get? Chan790 Apr 2012 #88
Chan790 my friend, I admire you. flvegan Apr 2012 #85
"I dated...underwear models." hay rick Apr 2012 #52
What can I say? I'm epically awesome. n/t Chan790 Apr 2012 #61
If anyone starts that thread, redqueen Apr 2012 #71
Is dating an underwear model a good thing? hay rick Apr 2012 #74
lol! OriginalGeek Apr 2012 #77
I have been considering the same thing... dogknob Apr 2012 #39
Yeah but when I do I usually get my face slapped.... whistler162 Apr 2012 #42
You should go for it, unless law forbids. JVS Apr 2012 #45
Personal experiences siligut Apr 2012 #46
When I was in my teens and twenties, both I and my friends had older men approach us Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #48
I once dated a woman for about 6 months. baldguy Apr 2012 #56
If you can't get beyond the word "hot" as a descriptor I would advise you to move on. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2012 #65
If you can actually get her to go on a date with you - GO FOR IT!!! cbdo2007 Apr 2012 #66
Is she legal? 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #69
My man is 14 years younger than I am. redqueen Apr 2012 #72
My husband is 13 years younger. FedUpWithIt All Apr 2012 #79
You answered your own question. Iggo Apr 2012 #73
Married a man 20 years older than me. Neoma Apr 2012 #78
Meanwhile Giantfootball has punted himself elsewhere felix_numinous Apr 2012 #81
his post sounded awfully familiar that was in lounge a couple months ago. hot, really hot girls seabeyond Apr 2012 #87
I've found people physically attractive... Fearless Apr 2012 #86
I've never let that discourage me... Rochester Apr 2012 #89
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