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jberryhill

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22. You'd love the facts in Newsom v. Albemarle County School Bd., 354 F.3d 249 (4th Cir. 2003)
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 10:11 PM
Aug 2019
$150,000 - cha-ching!


https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-4th-circuit/1173598.html

On April 29, 2002, during the student lunch period at Jouett, Elizabeth Pitt (Pitt), an assistant principal at Jouett, observed Newsom, who at the time was a twelve-year-old student in the sixth grade at Jouett, sitting at a table on the opposite side of the cafeteria with his back towards her.1  Pitt's attention was drawn to Newsom by his purple t-shirt, which depicted three black silhouettes of men holding firearms superimposed on the letters “NRA” positioned above the phrase “SHOOTING SPORTS CAMP.” Although the men appear to be aiming their firearms, the t-shirt did not indicate what or whom their targets may be.   The front of the t-shirt bore a smaller but identical version of the men superimposed on the initials “NRA,” but no other writing or symbols.

According to Pitt, she had the immediate impression that the figures were “sharpshooters” which reminded her of the shootings at Columbine High School in Colorado and other incidents of school-related violence.   As a consequence of her impression, Pitt was immediately concerned over the appropriateness of Newsom's t-shirt in a middle school environment.   Pitt believed that the t-shirt had the potential to disrupt the instructional process since the graphics on the shirt were so large and bold as to be distracting and she feared that Newsom's fellow middle school students would also associate the images with the events at Columbine High School and other incidents of school-related violence.   It was Pitt's judgment that the images on Newsom's t-shirt could also reasonably be interpreted by other middle school students to promote the use of guns.   Pitt felt that the imagery on the t-shirt was at odds with her obligation as a school administrator to discourage and prevent gun-related violence since the images on Newsom's t-shirt conflicted with the message that “Guns and Schools Don't Mix” and had the potential to create confusion among middle school students over the appropriate boundaries between firearms and schools.   Pitt was also aware of at least one prior incident at Jouett when a middle school student brought a firearm to a school function.

According to Pitt, she further explained the inappropriateness of the t-shirt to Newsom in terms she felt he would understand, that the school did not allow alcohol or drugs in the school and did not permit clothing with references to alcohol or drugs.   Similarly, the school did not allow weapons in school nor images of such weapons on student clothing.

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During the summer of 2002, the student/parent handbook was revised to prohibit students from wearing, inter alia, “messages on clothing, jewelry, and personal belongings that relate to drugs, alcohol, tobacco, weapons, violence, sex, vulgarity, or that reflect adversely upon persons because of their race or ethnic group.”

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We begin our overbreadth analysis by noting that there simply is no evidence in the record (as the record has developed through the preliminary injunction stage of the case) demonstrating that clothing worn by students at Jouett containing messages related to weapons, nonviolent, nonthreatening, or otherwise, ever substantially disrupted school operations or interfered with the rights of others.   Indeed, there is no evidence that Newsom's t-shirt, let alone any other article of clothing worn by a student that contained a message relating to weapons, ever caused a commotion or was going to cause one at Jouett.   This lack of evidence strongly suggests that the ban on messages related to weapons was not necessary to maintain order and discipline at Jouett.


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Okay, now, that is a shirt depicting people with guns, and a specific school rule prohibiting messages that relate to weapons. In a school. Post Columbine. Still, there was no apparent evidence of such clothing causing a disruption.

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You ignore it. trc Aug 2019 #1
Was it a toilet tank? Sneederbunk Aug 2019 #2
LOL!! 2naSalit Aug 2019 #8
Teach the day's lesson? jberryhill Aug 2019 #3
Well obviously that's what I did ProudLib72 Aug 2019 #9
Is this a public school? jberryhill Aug 2019 #10
Yessiree it's a public school ProudLib72 Aug 2019 #12
If the garment is otherwise acceptable jberryhill Aug 2019 #15
Ok, ok, I get your point ProudLib72 Aug 2019 #17
There are quite a number of cases in this area jberryhill Aug 2019 #20
Oh sure, it's a major grey area, one that can land a school in legal hot water ProudLib72 Aug 2019 #23
Whatever I did, I'd try to be consistent with my previous reactions to analogous behavior RockRaven Aug 2019 #4
feel sorry for him Skittles Aug 2019 #5
I did, Skittles. I did ProudLib72 Aug 2019 #13
If political clothing isn't against policy... VarryOn Aug 2019 #6
I would ignore it. tymorial Aug 2019 #7
No, I get it. I wasn't about to contribute my opinion ProudLib72 Aug 2019 #11
Is there school policy on dress codes? procon Aug 2019 #14
Bingo. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #30
I suppose it would depend on my subject matter. bluedigger Aug 2019 #16
Ah, but what if that student came to class wearing a hoodie with a swastika on it? YOHABLO Aug 2019 #18
My take: Supporting Trump represents free speech, but swastikas represent hate speech True Dough Aug 2019 #19
I judged his intent. Seriously, I did! ProudLib72 Aug 2019 #21
You'd love the facts in Newsom v. Albemarle County School Bd., 354 F.3d 249 (4th Cir. 2003) jberryhill Aug 2019 #22
This is interesting because the rule was in the student handbook ProudLib72 Aug 2019 #24
The decision making structure likely wouldn't have mattered jberryhill Aug 2019 #25
I drew the line at pajamas...Walmart doesn't seem to mind.. pbmus Aug 2019 #26
People wear them everywhere jberryhill Aug 2019 #27
I would have a hard time accepting Trump paraphernalia True Dough Aug 2019 #28
Trump represents hate speech. YOHABLO Aug 2019 #31
Teach critical thinking skills, data validation awareness, and history. n/t TygrBright Aug 2019 #29
You'd be in pretty hot water with admins if you objected to portrayal of the POS on a hoodie. Chemisse Aug 2019 #32
Not a thing. malthaussen Aug 2019 #33
It would be against school dress codes here. hunter Aug 2019 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Aug 2019 #35
I understand Niagara Aug 2019 #36
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