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highplainsdem

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23. LOL! It means "deadbeats," according to articles I've read.
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 11:45 AM
Jun 2022

I also read that at one of their early concerts, whoever introduced them got one of the letters of the second word in their name wrong and introduced them as Toten Hasen, or the Dead Hares or Dead Rabbits. (Hasen is another of those words that if paired with another adjective means something very different, because in German "old hares" means "old hands" or "old-timers."

And yes, it's a weird name.

But a great band.

Now one of my favorite bands.

And after years of wishing there were new bands around as good as U2 or other favorite bands from the classic-rock era, I was thrilled to find out there was a German band that good, one that's created a lot of music over four decades, music that's still new to me.

I do wish they'd recorded in English instead, the way Golden Earring did when they chose English over their native Dutch.

Campino is English on his mother's side, even became an English citizen recently, dual citizenship, and he and his siblings were raised to speak English as well as German. (see the video interviews above, one where he's talking to Joey Ramone, another where he's being interviewed by a British journalist.) But I don't think as high a percentage of the German population speaks English as the Dutch population does (I've read that over 90% of Dutch adults know English), so writing their songs in English would have left a lot of their German-speaking audience out. And with Austria and Switzerlad included with Germany, that's a population of over 100 million, several times the Dutch population, so recording in German was a smart decision (and since they started out as a punk band, making a decision to aim for the English-speaking market, the US and UK, might've seemed too commercial).

I've found myself wishing they'd at least recorded English as well as German versions of their most popular songs, too, so those could've been hits here, but German is different enough from English that it would be really difficult to come up with a good translation using the same number (or close to the same number) of syllables per line.

I had two years of German in high school and a few more years in college, and I've forgotten a lot of it, but it's been coming back as I listen to more of their music. Still not enough to follow interviews in German very well, but I did find something really interesting with subtitles that I'll be posting later.

And besides their music being so good, they've been political and social activists for decades, something I think DUers appreciate. I don't demand that artists whose work I like share my political beliefs (I can separate the art from the artist), but it's great when they do. And DTH won't let themselves be used for politics they don't agree with. As I posted above, Angela Merkel ended up apologizing to them for using Tage Wie Diese to celebrate an election victory. And when a Swiss band espousing far-right politics changed the lyrics of the song to promote their neo-nazi ideas, Die Toten Hosen immediately shut them down with a lawsuit.

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Bookmarking Bayard May 2022 #1
I haven't heard anything from them since '87. Harker May 2022 #2
Yes, they have. highplainsdem May 2022 #3
Btw, if you hadn't heard anything from them since '87, you missed their 1988 concept album highplainsdem May 2022 #4
Thank you very much. Harker May 2022 #5
You're welcome! And since you're a punk rock fan, you'll probably like this video of Joey Ramone highplainsdem May 2022 #7
What a treat. Harker May 2022 #8
Apropos of Campino speaking favorably of Television, and of the importance of Harker Jun 2022 #58
Great song! Easy to see why Campino mentioned them a few years later, highplainsdem Jun 2022 #60
They've also interviewed and criticized Angela Merkel, who had to apologize to them once. highplainsdem May 2022 #6
Wow that's a nice song, and I see what you mean about the U2 comparison FakeNoose May 2022 #9
The music video in the OP is a mix of scenes/crowds including highplainsdem May 2022 #10
Just found the article again where I'd seen the song's theme highplainsdem May 2022 #11
Thanks, this is very interesting FakeNoose May 2022 #15
Yeah, I can hear some U2 influence in there... electric_blue68 May 2022 #12
This might be Toten Hosen's most U2-influenced song, though I like a lot of their highplainsdem May 2022 #13
40 yrs? God bless em! 👍 electric_blue68 May 2022 #14
Campino has said in recent interviews that he doesn't think the band will still highplainsdem May 2022 #16
Another very impressive song from the same album as the song in the OP. highplainsdem May 2022 #17
Thanks this is a really nice song FakeNoose May 2022 #18
You're welcome! Wanted to share because this is an amazing song, and not at all what highplainsdem May 2022 #19
"Tage Wie Diese" isn't a song I'd've expected to sound so highplainsdem Jun 2022 #20
Found a bit more background, written in English for a change, on Die Toten Hosen highplainsdem Jun 2022 #21
"The Dead Pants"? Ocelot II Jun 2022 #22
LOL! It means "deadbeats," according to articles I've read. highplainsdem Jun 2022 #23
Must be a colloquialism, since "hosen" literally means trousers, Ocelot II Jun 2022 #24
Yes, I know "hosen" literally means trousers. Some of their fans refer to them simply as highplainsdem Jun 2022 #25
Did listen, didn't like; just not my taste - too noisy and screamy. Ocelot II Jun 2022 #26
Okay. Thanks for giving it a listen! I like classical music, too -- highplainsdem Jun 2022 #27
The problem that I have with rock and most other popular music Ocelot II Jun 2022 #28
We'll have to agree to disagree. Great classical music survived because it was written down. highplainsdem Jun 2022 #29
I have to agree. The best of all genres will survive, especially now. DFW Jun 2022 #31
Love that video of a Bulgarian choir! Thanks for posting that! highplainsdem Jun 2022 #33
For the record DFW Jun 2022 #34
An interesting name for a very loud rock band, then! Ocelot II Jun 2022 #36
They're a very interesting band. And one with a great sense of humor. highplainsdem Jun 2022 #38
I think the irony was intentional DFW Jun 2022 #41
Interesting how colloquialisms usually don't translate well, and Ocelot II Jun 2022 #39
They do make learning a language, not to mention translating, a lot highplainsdem Jun 2022 #40
tote hose is German slang for very boring, nothing happening Celerity Jun 2022 #45
I suppose dead pants is a pretty good euphemism for nothing happening. Ocelot II Jun 2022 #46
exactly Celerity Jun 2022 #47
Here are a couple of articles on it: highplainsdem Jun 2022 #48
'deadbeats' is an incorrect translation, the correct translation is boring, dead, nothing happening Celerity Jun 2022 #49
Fwiw, "dead beat" means too tired to move, and it had that meaning highplainsdem Jun 2022 #50
I had always assumed the name derived from the WWII era Harker Jun 2022 #57
That's a really interesting possibility, and one I'd never highplainsdem Jun 2022 #59
I have a few issues with the English translation which might help the lyrics make more sense DFW Jun 2022 #30
LOL! Thanks for the tips on the translation, and I had to laugh reading about how amused highplainsdem Jun 2022 #32
This being my adopted home town DFW Jun 2022 #35
No, that reply WASN'T longer than I wanted. I'd never call any other DUer long-winded highplainsdem Jun 2022 #37
Since Dusseldorf is your adopted home town, I thought you might like highplainsdem Jun 2022 #42
Die Toten Hosen are starting their 40th anniversary tour as the first band EVER to have 12 highplainsdem Jun 2022 #43
Die Toten Hosen (DTH) kicked off the stadium portion of their 40th anniversary tour last highplainsdem Jun 2022 #44
I've already said I wish Die Toten Hosen had recorded their songs in English, so they highplainsdem Jun 2022 #51
There's a recent documentary on the band, WITH ENGLISH SUBTITLES, uploaded to highplainsdem Jun 2022 #52
Thank you for this! Elessar Zappa Jun 2022 #53
You're very welcome! Hope you'll enjoy it. highplainsdem Jun 2022 #54
LOL! Some news on what Campino thinks of the band's name, and his own nickname. highplainsdem Jun 2022 #55
Die Toten Hosen made international news a couple of nights ago by interrupting their concert highplainsdem Jun 2022 #56
Found a review in English of DTH's most recent concert, in Munich on the 18th. highplainsdem Jun 2022 #61
You're correct in that I won't be at either concert DFW Jun 2022 #62
Good for them! And enjoy the babysitting! I'd love to hear what they think of the concert, highplainsdem Jun 2022 #63
It's after 11 in Dusseldorf, and one video from tonight's concert is already highplainsdem Jun 2022 #64
Last night, for the 2nd of their two 40th-anniversary-tour concerts in Dusseldorf, DTH shared highplainsdem Jun 2022 #65
This is a fun video, which Die Toten Hosen added to their YouTube channel just this highplainsdem Jun 2022 #66
The band uploaded another video to YouTube this morning, showing some concert highplainsdem Jul 2022 #67
Die Toten Hosen gave a concert in Leipzig last night, and a fan was close highplainsdem Jul 2022 #68
Another fun video from the band, uploaded to their YouTube channel yesterday, about highplainsdem Jul 2022 #69
DTH gave a concert in Hamburg last night, at a music festival at the Volkspark Stadion. highplainsdem Jul 2022 #70
Live in Stuttgart last night, with a really impressive performance of highplainsdem Jul 2022 #71
Another amusing video from the band, posted a few hours ago, showing their highplainsdem Jul 2022 #72
Still going really strong in Freiburg last night: highplainsdem Jul 2022 #73
A couple more videos, mostly backstage scenes, posted by the band about their tour. highplainsdem Jul 2022 #74
DTH are currently taking nearly a month-long break, after two months of touring, highplainsdem Aug 2022 #75
Another fun video from DTH, this one posted on their YouTube channel just minutes ago. This highplainsdem Aug 2022 #76
DTH's 40th anniversary tour resumed last night, at Berlin's Tempelhof airport, and highplainsdem Aug 2022 #77
Long article/interview on Campino's environmental activism and narrator role in a new documentary highplainsdem Sep 2022 #78
DTH ended their very successful 40th anniversary tour in Minden last highplainsdem Sep 2022 #79
I'd forgotten that Die Toten Hosen's 40th anniversary concerts would include a few in Argentina highplainsdem Oct 2022 #80
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