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DFW

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40. The refusal to be intimidated is strong with these two.
Sat Oct 1, 2022, 05:37 PM
Oct 2022

Our friend was a tough CEO in a country where diminutive women aren't expected to be that (i.e. Germany). My wife, after years of being a social worker, fighting both FOR those on whom the system would crap on, as well against those who merely wanted to use the system to their selfish advantage, has a very solid "Gerechtigkeitssinn." That is one of those put-together German words that foreigners stumble over. It means "sense of justice." She hates it when the good guys lose, or when the bad guys win.

She also developed a very good sense of when someone was trying to put one over on her. One of her charges was a youngish Russian immigrant who was by nature lazy, although he didn't seem to be very lacking in intelligence. Just conditioned by the Soviet (and post-Soviet) system to think that work is optional and the best way to get something you want is to take it. He used to duck interviews and appointments by claiming his German wasn't good enough yet to understand what what asked of him. My wife, fed up with this, told him one Friday afternoon to be in her office at 8:00 AM the next Monday morning to try to straighten him out. He said, uh, "DA," sure, Monday, acting as if he hadn't quite understood what she had told him. When she got home that evening, she called him in his apartment, and put me on the phone. I said, in Russian, "listen up, my wife wants you in her office at 8:00 in the morning on Monday. Have you understood what I just told you?" Since he was Russian, he couldn't wiggle out of it this time. He WAS in her office at 8:00 the next Monday morning, his German having vastly improved over the weekend (what a coincidence). The guy DID straighten out, and she finally placed him in a decent-paying job, where he could actually afford more by working than he could by taking state handouts. He never really thanked her, but his success was thanks enough.

Our friend, the former executive, is similar in nature, and HATES being taken for a timid little old lady just because she might look like one. She has no problem with correcting people who underestimate her. You'd think that after 16 years of Angela Merkel, Germany would get the hint, but this remains a very macho society, and the attitude still prevails even after Merkel showed them how wrong that attitude is.

I contrast this with my office just over the border in Holland, where women have some of the higher positions, and none of the men seem to have any problem with it. It's definitely a cultural thing. I have to wonder, in retrospect, if this wasn't my lucky charm in winning my wife all those years ago. With her looks and personality, she could have had any man she wanted, and there were plenty of them interested in the position. But I had a totally different attitude toward women from what she was used to in the rural Catholic northwestern German farm country where she grew up, and apparently that was the big factor in my favor. Americans who spoke German were considered rather exotic in those days, too, so that helped.

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Team error mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2022 #1
Facilitated by the system DFW Oct 2022 #4
Check, recheck and recheck again..... paleotn Oct 2022 #35
That's crazy. Sounds like a recipe for disaster. Do the patients Boomerproud Oct 2022 #42
I would hope. DFW Oct 2022 #43
Wow... scary stuff! calimary Oct 2022 #31
Thank goodness your wife and her friend were on the ball! And what if they hadn't been? CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2022 #2
Medical mistakes are made everyday... rubbersole Oct 2022 #3
I'm sure the near misses get filed under..... DFW Oct 2022 #5
Thanks for this important post. Friends/Family should always be w/patients to help answer AnotherMother4Peace Oct 2022 #6
Wow, bad nursing 101. Lunabell Oct 2022 #7
Right?!?! This is precisely what we do. AllyCat Oct 2022 #9
I'll bet that German nurses who have spent time working in American hospitals have recommendations DFW Oct 2022 #14
I considered relocating to Germany. Then I heard how low the AllyCat Oct 2022 #17
Thanks, she is shaken, but OK. DFW Oct 2022 #10
Refusing to tell the patient what the medicine is? PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2022 #8
Agreed on all counts! DFW Oct 2022 #11
That's supposed to be the standard in the US. Lunabell Oct 2022 #13
Maybe no names posted on the outside of a room, PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2022 #41
Study after study says fully informed patients have better outcomes. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2022 #12
Here patients are better off informing themselves DFW Oct 2022 #25
The hospital we utilize in Milwaukee has a system where all medication is individually wrapped with Ziggysmom Oct 2022 #15
We have that in Madison too. We still ask the patient every time: AllyCat Oct 2022 #19
What a great system. Probably zero errors. mountain grammy Oct 2022 #20
These sorts of errors are much more prevalant in nursing homes thucythucy Oct 2022 #16
So glad your wife's friend inquired about the meds and this ended well. n/t iluvtennis Oct 2022 #18
Have read this post twice. Sogo Oct 2022 #21
She was the one who grilled the nurse first DFW Oct 2022 #26
Eerily reminiscent of COL Mustard Oct 2022 #32
Preventing Homicides ms.pamela Oct 2022 #22
I vaguely remember that site, so it's possible I posted there at one time. DFW Oct 2022 #39
Medical computer systems work hard to prevent PuppyBismark Oct 2022 #23
Germany is very technologically advanced in SOME things DFW Oct 2022 #27
In my hospital they have a board on the wall with patients name Historic NY Oct 2022 #24
It is totally nuts, agreed. DFW Oct 2022 #29
We were fine with Mr X's name on the board XanaDUer2 Oct 2022 #36
Scary! And infuriating that they get annoyed when a patient asks them a reasonable request! Tadpole Raisin Oct 2022 #28
What scares us is this: DFW Oct 2022 #30
Thank God a horrifying mistake was prevented! As a caregiver for years, highplainsdem Oct 2022 #33
New Jersey, 3 years ago. Pharmacist sees a conflict with prescription. Wife is across the counter. 3Hotdogs Oct 2022 #34
Wow..kick Demovictory9 Oct 2022 #37
It's good to be smart NJCher Oct 2022 #38
The refusal to be intimidated is strong with these two. DFW Oct 2022 #40
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