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27. He is not her father.

Reply to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

Fri Jun 23, 2023, 01:22 PM

Jun 2023

The singer is person A. Clementine is person B. Father forty-niner is person C. The singer is in love with a miner's daughter. The singer is not the miner. It doesn't matter what some K drama is about 150+ years after this song was written, the song is not about incest.

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Omigod. I just learned the meaning of "Oh my darling Clementine." [View all] Baitball Blogger Jun 2023 OP

What? MontanaMama Jun 2023 #1

Why do you say it was In the voice of the father? Easterncedar Jun 2023 #2

Dwelt a miner 49er Marthe48 Jun 2023 #34

It was a nonsense song of my childhood Easterncedar Jun 2023 #35

I am too Marthe48 Jun 2023 #37

Not sure how you came to that conclusion, there is nothing in this song that Bev54 Jun 2023 #3

Look it up on google. Baitball Blogger Jun 2023 #4

So I looked it up and does not say anything nor projects incest. Bev54 Jun 2023 #7

This is from wiki: Baitball Blogger Jun 2023 #8

Yes but it does not say the singer is the father, and it actually projects he is not. Bev54 Jun 2023 #11

It is being projected as he has an unnaturally close love to his daughter. Baitball Blogger Jun 2023 #14

No read my post below Bev54 Jun 2023 #15

This is what it says Bev54 Jun 2023 #13

Clementine is the daughter of a miner, and she is also the lover of the singer. Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #20

It is saying that the daughter is the singer's lover. wnylib Jun 2023 #28

OP's interpretation came from watching a Korean drama. intheflow Jun 2023 #31

Same here. TheBlackAdder Jun 2023 #5

It sounds to me like the singer's girlfriend lived with her father. sl8 Jun 2023 #6

The person singing the chorus is the father. Baitball Blogger Jun 2023 #9

Nope Bev54 Jun 2023 #12

I understand that's what you think, but I believe you are mistaken. nt sl8 Jun 2023 #17

I like Bobby Darin's version Walleye Jun 2023 #10

Well, if you read it on the internet, it must be true. Abe Lincoln said so. HardPort Jun 2023 #16

Also in an Internationally acclaimed K-Drama. Baitball Blogger Jun 2023 #18

this NoSheep Jun 2023 #21

On wiki no less. LakeArenal Jun 2023 #22

You're thinking Chinatown. Ptah Jun 2023 #19

Forget it Jake! Floyd R. Turbo Jun 2023 #23

She's my daughter and my sister, dreadful sorrow, Chinatown. Ptah Jun 2023 #26

There is nothing to suggest incest in this song. intheflow Jun 2023 #24

Passive aggressive zinger. Baitball Blogger Jun 2023 #25

Well then, it came from someone else's life experience. intheflow Jun 2023 #29

Now we're getting into an argument on originalism? Baitball Blogger Jun 2023 #30

No, I'm saying quoting a tv drama as fact is bullshit. n/t intheflow Jun 2023 #32

I don't introduce it as a fact. Just someone else's perspective. Baitball Blogger Jun 2023 #33

'In contemporary South Korea, for example, there is a peculiar prevalence of incest dramas ... ' Donkees Jun 2023 #45

An amazing article! Baitball Blogger Jun 2023 #46

Plus, it seems the melody Clementine came to Korea about 1885 and was changed to 'Simcheongga' Donkees Jun 2023 #47

Jeez. Great research. Loved to read about all of this. Baitball Blogger Jun 2023 #48

I enjoyed the search. Here is a Korean TV 'Clementine' soundtrack Donkees Jun 2023 #50

He is not her father. Tree-Hugger Jun 2023 #27

Were any door buzzards involved? NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2023 #36

I have this on my computer! EndlessWire Jun 2023 #38

People have sung about tragedies for millennia gratuitous Jun 2023 #39

I'm only on episode 12 of 16, so it will be interesting to see how they tie in the Baitball Blogger Jun 2023 #40

The miner is mentioned once in the third person soldierant Jun 2023 #41

Some verses have the father killing himself and the singer taking up with the sister. sl8 Jun 2023 #42

Never realized how morbid this song was before today. Baitball Blogger Jun 2023 #44

Let's see them interpret THIS one: ret5hd Jun 2023 #43

This verse clearly indicates *the singer* loved Clementine... ARPad95 Jun 2023 #49

Don't think it's the father speaking LeftishBrit Jun 2023 #51

Complete nonsense Chakaconcarne Jun 2023 #52