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NNadir

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35. I really can't believe that people believe this sort of thing.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 08:55 PM
Friday

The "shots" are vaccines, not treatments. If one already has Covid or the flu, vaccines are useless.

There are treatments for both flu and Covid but they are not injectable drugs.

Tamiflu (oseltamivir), Xofluza (baloxavir), Relenza (zanamivir), and Rapivab (peramivir)
for flu, Paxlovid for Covid are oral drugs.

It is true for retroviruses in particular with fast reproduction - and thus evolution - rates, resistant strains to vaccines develop quickly so the disease can still occur, generally in a milder form as the antibodies generated by B cells may have lower binding efficiency, but vaccines prevent disease, they do not cure it.

For treatments this can also occur. We saw this with the early protease inhibitors for AIDS, aspartyl proteases, p55 gag proteins, where resistance developed generally along single nucleotide polymorphisms (and on occasion, multiple nucleotide polymorphisms, for example the M46I/I47V/I50V mutations that showed resistance to Amprenavir).

This is not a place to spread misinformation about the difference between vaccines and treatments.

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A friend of mine Delarage Thursday #2
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curious... Tetrachloride Thursday #21
But true, nonetheless. PoindexterOglethorpe Thursday #22
Good to know! Delarage Thursday #23
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I do wish that you will be able to enjoy at least the spirit of Christmas today. riversedge Thursday #3
Me too!! leftieNanner Thursday #4
Yikes. Bad timing for the illness, Jilly! LuckyCharms Thursday #5
Best recovery. cachukis Thursday #6
I missed all four Christmas parties of the groups I'm involved with The Blue Flower Thursday #7
The shots don't prevent COVID or flu, they just mitigate the disease. Best to test so you know what you have Blues Heron Thursday #8
Correct! biophile Thursday #11
No, it was designed to be a COVID vaccine. Vaccines don't prevent infection, it's not a protective bubble Blues Heron Thursday #16
I'm agreeing with you; but probably expressing it poorly biophile Thursday #24
The goal with all vaccines is to create the best response possible, lifetime immunity if possible Blues Heron Thursday #25
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I really can't believe that people believe this sort of thing. NNadir Friday #35
Awful! Dear_Prudence Thursday #9
My 5 year old step-Granddaughter is sick this year. House of Roberts Thursday #10
You could still have the flu biophile Thursday #12
Healing vibes on the way to you, Jilly! SheltieLover Thursday #13
Trump is back in power and he brings with him another pandemic, methinks. rurallib Thursday #14
Get well wishes to you 🙏 TommieMommy Thursday #15
Merry Christmas! I am on day 7 of what sounds like the same thing. The good news: Scrivener7 Thursday #17
Sounds like the current variant of Covid. Hope22 Thursday #19
Bummer. I hope you are much better soon. LoisB Thursday #20
Everyone around me bamagal62 Thursday #26
they have never claimed you cannot get covid/or flu if you are vaccinated Skittles Thursday #27
I got Covid after having all the shots. Irish_Dem Thursday #28
Feel better soon Jilly_in_VA. MIButterfly Thursday #29
I had all vaccines and have Flu A, as does my husband. halobeam Friday #30
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There is a new strain. Codifer Friday #31
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