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Chan790

(20,176 posts)
5. He needs to say so.
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 07:31 AM
Jun 2013

Whether to her, the nurses or his doctor (note that you're not in that list); he has to say he doesn't want to speak to the chaplain.

The problem arises because the patient tells you they don't want to speak to the chaplain, you tell the chaplain, the chaplain pops her head in and asks the patient directly (which they can and in many hospitals are supposed to do in this circumstance to confirm the patient's wants/needs) and the patient for whatever reason says they would like the company. Now the chaplain sees you as misrepresenting the spiritual/visitation wants of the patient.

She sounds like the type who is not going to listen to it from anybody but him anyway and if she's a hospital chaplain she's going to know the rules well enough regarding what she and cannot do and that it's his expressed wishes (not yours) that must be respected, that hospital administration isn't going to act without him saying anything. Ultimately, either to her or to the nurses or both, he has to express his desire not to talk to her.

Until then, misguided as it is, even if she's not trying to minister to him, she's going to think that visiting inpatients who, by assumption must be lonely, bored and grateful for company and conversation is an act of charity and mercy even when it does nothing but annoy the patient. (I've known chaplains and religiously-motivated hospital volunteers of this sort before. I get the dull-persistence of their thinking.) She's probably confused and thinks very poorly of you that you're trying to deprive him of companionship through what must be a lonely and difficult time.

Annoying persistent gits, aren't they.

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Speak with nurses at nursing station, elleng Jun 2013 #1
My first reaction, too. SwissTony Jun 2013 #4
this seems like a hippa violation sigmasix Jun 2013 #2
As a fellow atheist this makes me mad... Locut0s Jun 2013 #3
He needs to say so. Chan790 Jun 2013 #5
Unless you are the person's health care proxy, your comments mean little dr.strangelove Jun 2013 #6
post-sleep thought: possibility she didn't realize until after-the fact, the patient she talked to eShirl Jun 2013 #7
Some religious types are incapable of grasping they may be doing harm TrogL Jun 2013 #12
Oh no a person talked to another person! whistler162 Jun 2013 #8
fuck off eShirl Jun 2013 #10
Are you honestly trying to suggest that the hospital chaplain's motives are not to proselytize? Major Nikon Jun 2013 #14
It's been my experience that they don't. AngryOldDem Jun 2013 #16
Your experience doesn't match the description in the OP Major Nikon Jun 2013 #18
Seems to me that it's the chaplain who is the exception to the rule. AngryOldDem Jun 2013 #24
That's because hospitals routinely run off those who proselytize too much Major Nikon Jun 2013 #25
If the patient doesn't want him/her there, does it really matter what they talked about? madmom Jun 2013 #26
When admitted, did your husband specify Lars39 Jun 2013 #9
Catholic hospital? Myrina Jun 2013 #11
Spam deleted by MIR Team Iknowjackt Jun 2013 #13
Well, don't know what to say to that. Welcome to DU? uppityperson Jun 2013 #21
Best post of the day... a real DUzy ! agracie Jun 2013 #22
Tell the chaplain directly, go to whoever's in charge of her, or tell the nurses she's off limits. AngryOldDem Jun 2013 #15
I've never had a problem getting a chaplain to leave. "Thanks but no thanks" has always worked. MADem Jun 2013 #17
Don't dump this on the nurses. Their job is caregiving, not supervising the Chaplains. Talk to ... Scuba Jun 2013 #19
Tell them that you're going to bill them $10,000 each time the chaplain pesters him. Orrex Jun 2013 #20
Scream in his face, with witnesses, spittle flying Bertha Venation Jun 2013 #23
The patient needs to 840high Jun 2013 #27
Explain how Hercules had his titles of adoration ripped off. RedCloud Jun 2013 #28
Talk to their supervisor u4ic Jun 2013 #29
That's sad. All the military chaplains I knew were great with atheists Recursion Jun 2013 #30
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