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eShirl

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7. post-sleep thought: possibility she didn't realize until after-the fact, the patient she talked to
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 08:31 AM
Jun 2013

was the person I had previously asked her to NOT talk to.

I'll try to give a succinct synopsis. My discussion with the chaplain happened in a different section of the hospital, where I was with a 2nd family member who also happens to be a patient. I didn't have a problem with her talking to patient 2, and when I was leaving to check on family member patient 1 she offered to come talk to him as well. Told her I wished she wouldn't, he doesn't like talking to chaplains, priests, etc.

She continued to offer, using different reasons why talking to him might be beneficial or comforting to him somehow anyway, necessitating increasingly firm and emphatic explanations that he did not want it, had previously asked me to prevent chaplains from even talking to him if I could, and that rather than being a comfort it would make him angry and upset. I warned her if she did try to talk to him, he would tell her to leave and that if she didn't he would get increasingly loud, angry and insulting until she did leave. (I've seen him do it in the past.) I thought that might have finally gotten through to her, and I left.

A few hours later as I'm making my way to my atheist family member's room, she comes up to me in the hall and says, "Hi, I talked with your (family member I had asked her not to)." I'm like WHAT?!?!?!?!?! inside, and said LOUDLY so other people could hear, "After I specifically asked you NOT to talk to him??" And she said yes. It was kind of a blur after that, but she wasn't particularly defensive, apologetic, or explanatory, just quietish and with the same sad, verge-of-crying expression she seems always to be wearing.

Anyway, it occurs to me that perhaps, PERHAPS, she was just making her introductory, we're-hear-if-you-want-to-talk-and-the-chapel-is-that-way rounds of that hospital wing, and didn't realize until after the fact that she had talked to someone she had been asked not to talk to. It's either that, or she's some kind of pushy religious narcissist who shouldn't have access to the captive audience of a hospital full of sick people. I will give her the benefit of the doubt for now.



I've taken too long writing this already.
Thank you to all who read and responded to my OP; venting last night helped be able to get some sleep.

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Speak with nurses at nursing station, elleng Jun 2013 #1
My first reaction, too. SwissTony Jun 2013 #4
this seems like a hippa violation sigmasix Jun 2013 #2
As a fellow atheist this makes me mad... Locut0s Jun 2013 #3
He needs to say so. Chan790 Jun 2013 #5
Unless you are the person's health care proxy, your comments mean little dr.strangelove Jun 2013 #6
post-sleep thought: possibility she didn't realize until after-the fact, the patient she talked to eShirl Jun 2013 #7
Some religious types are incapable of grasping they may be doing harm TrogL Jun 2013 #12
Oh no a person talked to another person! whistler162 Jun 2013 #8
fuck off eShirl Jun 2013 #10
Are you honestly trying to suggest that the hospital chaplain's motives are not to proselytize? Major Nikon Jun 2013 #14
It's been my experience that they don't. AngryOldDem Jun 2013 #16
Your experience doesn't match the description in the OP Major Nikon Jun 2013 #18
Seems to me that it's the chaplain who is the exception to the rule. AngryOldDem Jun 2013 #24
That's because hospitals routinely run off those who proselytize too much Major Nikon Jun 2013 #25
If the patient doesn't want him/her there, does it really matter what they talked about? madmom Jun 2013 #26
When admitted, did your husband specify Lars39 Jun 2013 #9
Catholic hospital? Myrina Jun 2013 #11
Spam deleted by MIR Team Iknowjackt Jun 2013 #13
Well, don't know what to say to that. Welcome to DU? uppityperson Jun 2013 #21
Best post of the day... a real DUzy ! agracie Jun 2013 #22
Tell the chaplain directly, go to whoever's in charge of her, or tell the nurses she's off limits. AngryOldDem Jun 2013 #15
I've never had a problem getting a chaplain to leave. "Thanks but no thanks" has always worked. MADem Jun 2013 #17
Don't dump this on the nurses. Their job is caregiving, not supervising the Chaplains. Talk to ... Scuba Jun 2013 #19
Tell them that you're going to bill them $10,000 each time the chaplain pesters him. Orrex Jun 2013 #20
Scream in his face, with witnesses, spittle flying Bertha Venation Jun 2013 #23
The patient needs to 840high Jun 2013 #27
Explain how Hercules had his titles of adoration ripped off. RedCloud Jun 2013 #28
Talk to their supervisor u4ic Jun 2013 #29
That's sad. All the military chaplains I knew were great with atheists Recursion Jun 2013 #30
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