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riderinthestorm

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16. I agree with this. Its not just calories in, calories out.
Fri May 2, 2014, 08:04 PM
May 2014

I have human anecdotes but let me move to the animal world where subjectivity is minimized. I own and operate a 40 horse farm. Most of them are competitive sport horses. About half of them are in consistent training with my husband. Same feed, same hay, same water, same supplements, same amount of turnout, and exercise, and yet I have horses with wildly differing diets to accommodate their needs. A large pony eats three times as much as a thoroughbred, and the pony still can't put on weight. I have one client who owns an Andalusian/Thoroughbred cross - BIG guy on near-starvation rations and who still struggles with being overweight after 6 years with us, who also owns a tiny Arab who consumes the most hay and grain of any other horse in the barn.

If it were simply a matter of calories in, calories out then I could simply calculate their BMI, height and weight, and voila! create a standardized feeding plan.

Yet soooo many other factors matter: their temperament, whether they have ulcers or other pain related issues, their genetics, their past medical history (yes actually that matters - if a horse has had poor management in their past say they weren't properly dewormed, that also takes a toll on their gastro-intestinal system) etc etc.

Feeding animals becomes science. Anyone with multiple cats or dogs will tell you the same. Its not as simple as calories in, calories out.

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That's terrific, Tobin! mnhtnbb May 2014 #1
"watch your calories for weight loss" Helen Borg May 2014 #2
Um... Not in our experience. politicat May 2014 #13
It's not that complicated Helen Borg May 2014 #14
I don't know where you're getting your information, but not according to current research. politicat May 2014 #17
Thanks for taking the time lolly May 2014 #19
IF Calories IN > Calories consumed THEN you gain weight. Helen Borg May 2014 #24
No. This ignorance is part of the problem IdaBriggs May 2014 #22
Counts for what? Helen Borg May 2014 #25
Your information is outdated. Even lab animals are getting fatter riderinthestorm May 2014 #29
I agree with this. Its not just calories in, calories out. riderinthestorm May 2014 #16
Wow. I would love to have access to your records. You've got something amazing. politicat May 2014 #18
Of course! I'm outside of Chicago so I'm not sure how close I am to you riderinthestorm May 2014 #21
Not all carbs are created equal kristopher May 2014 #3
Mrs. 1SBM is on a similar diet ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #4
That's fantastic news that she is off her meds BrotherIvan May 2014 #6
That is so true ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #8
I'm so happy for your wife and you StrongBlackMan! Boomerproud May 2014 #12
Good for you, my dear Tobin! CaliforniaPeggy May 2014 #5
Good job! Phentex May 2014 #7
I'm not a beer drinker but there are several low carb beers riderinthestorm May 2014 #9
No, I had to backtrack on that one. Tobin S. May 2014 #28
Good kenzie0418 May 2014 #10
Welcome to DU gopiscrap May 2014 #26
Yes, welcome to DU. Tobin S. May 2014 #27
180? DAMN! doxydad May 2014 #11
the famous diabetes expert Dr. Bernstein.... grasswire May 2014 #15
These people are on medication Tobin S. May 2014 #23
Congrats man. Mrdrboi May 2014 #20
Straight A's and losing weight... You are soaring, Tobin! hunter May 2014 #30
Thanks, hunter Tobin S. May 2014 #31
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