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The Velveteen Ocelot

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50. The FAA and the NTSB are separate agencies, but I get your point.

Tue Sep 13, 2016, 12:39 PM

Sep 2016

Both get directly involved in accident investigations, which takes a really strong stomach if you're on a go-team. I teach a college class relating to aviation safety, and one semester I had a student who was, shall we say, unusual. We were discussing the functions of these agencies, and the student offered the opinion that the government shouldn't regulate aviation safety at all and the FAA should be abolished because "the market" would take care of aviation safety - that is, if an airline crashed a lot of planes eventually nobody would want to fly with them and they'd go out of business. I asked her how many people would have to die before this happened and she just shrugged. The other students looked at her like she was nuts.

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Just back from seeing the movie, "Sully", with Tom Hanks as the heroic pilot [View all] mnhtnbb Sep 2016 OP

Something else to take away from the movie. NightWatcher Sep 2016 #1

I wouldn't mind being stuck on a deserted island with him lunatica Sep 2016 #2

Until you get a cavity and Dr Iceskate comes around for you. NightWatcher Sep 2016 #3

You have to bring your own soccer ball tho. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2016 #6

Or George Clooney Xipe Totec Sep 2016 #53

The job of the NTSB is not to assign blame or fault The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2016 #4

I haven't read Sully's book--which is what the movie is based on-- mnhtnbb Sep 2016 #5

I know 'true story' pieces often create conflict JonLP24 Sep 2016 #12

The NTSB report is very detailed and very thorough. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2016 #14

Thanks for linking to the NTSB report mnhtnbb Sep 2016 #17

Thanks, Velveteen Ocelot and Mnhtnbb Hortensis Sep 2016 #19

The NTSB is the envy of the world Major Nikon Sep 2016 #25

Your post gives me further evidence when I argue with Libertarians Yavin4 Sep 2016 #49

The FAA and the NTSB are separate agencies, but I get your point. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2016 #50

They wouldn't go out of business. Yavin4 Sep 2016 #51

I saw it today too! cwydro Sep 2016 #7

Good fiction usually is! whistler162 Sep 2016 #29

Why do you call it fiction? cwydro Sep 2016 #30

NPR Tom Hanks interview whistler162 Sep 2016 #32

I'll check it out, thanks! cwydro Sep 2016 #33

As is good non-fiction as well! LanternWaste Sep 2016 #41

Problem is too much of the story appears whistler162 Sep 2016 #47

insurance investigation & deposition fiction is an underrated genre Bucky Sep 2016 #8

I saw it yesterday and thought it was excellent! There were no crazy story lines. I found it Upthevibe Sep 2016 #9

Don't take this movie as being an accurate depiction of how the process works. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2016 #16

Right. mnhtnbb Sep 2016 #18

Because 9/11 involved criminal acts the NTSB was not the primary investigator. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2016 #20

The "technical assistance" of the NTSB has left a lot of unanswered questions regarding 9/11 mnhtnbb Sep 2016 #21

Me, too. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2016 #22

I also enjoy people who upon hearing a joke, will correct it for accuracy LanternWaste Sep 2016 #42

I haven't seen the movie yet, but from the promos it appears as if the process is highly dramatized Major Nikon Sep 2016 #26

"Ask-The-Pilot" has a good take on this film. . . DinahMoeHum Sep 2016 #10

Oh? Hmm...I'm sure a corporate mouthpiece has no axe to grind... mnhtnbb Sep 2016 #11

You also have those on the left who raise nutty allegations about the NTSB Major Nikon Sep 2016 #28

As The Nation said in May 2002, getting rid of Wellstone was a passion for Bush, Karl Rove, and mnhtnbb Sep 2016 #31

"couldn't crash Wellstone's plane" Major Nikon Sep 2016 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author mnhtnbb Sep 2016 #35

Some people are really Koo-Koo. MicaelS Sep 2016 #36

Stuff like that was all over DU and still pops up from time to time Major Nikon Sep 2016 #38

The mind control stuff is/was more real JonLP24 Sep 2016 #44

All conspiracy theory nonsense has an element of possibility Major Nikon Sep 2016 #45

I'm completely unfamiliar with emp JonLP24 Sep 2016 #46

That accident was caused by plain old pilot error. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2016 #37

I always thought the true tragedy is nobody said anything about the pilots Major Nikon Sep 2016 #39

I read the entire article and all the comments. MicaelS Sep 2016 #13

And here are some comments from NTSB investigators The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2016 #15

I always thought the NTSB was somewhat deferential to Sully in the Probable Cause findings. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2016 #24

For the most part NTSB reports are findings of fact Major Nikon Sep 2016 #27

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Glad You Liked It ProfessorGAC Sep 2016 #40

Your critique seems full of relevant knowledge in regards to the films. LanternWaste Sep 2016 #43

Huh? ProfessorGAC Sep 2016 #48

DON'T SPOIL THE ENDING!!!!!! alcibiades_mystery Sep 2016 #52