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GoneOffShore

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25. This was just sent to me by a friend who lives in Paris.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 03:19 PM
Feb 2017

"The 2017 French presidential election is in full swing. With first round voting scheduled for April 23rd and a second round May 7th. The main candidates are, François Fillon (Les Républicains, center-right), Marine Le Pen (Front national, right-wing populist), Emmanuel Macron (En Marche!, center) and Benoît Hamon (Parti socialiste, left). With outsiders as Jean-Luc Mélenchon (La France insoumise, left), Yannick Jadot (Europe Ècologie - Les Verts, center-left), Nicolas Dupont-Aignan (Debout la France, right), Philippe Poutou (Nouveau Parti anticapitaliste, far-left), Nathalie Arthaud (Lutte Ouvrière, far-left) and Jacques Cheminade (Solidarité et progrès).

This election marks the first time in France's Fifth Republic, that a president - François Hollande will not seek reelection after a first term. According to opinion polls Hollande is the most unpopular president in modern French history.
Initially it was thought this election was François Fillon's to lose. Fillon's come from behind win in Les Républicains primary in November seemed all he needed to be victorious in May. Hollande's record discredited his Parti socialiste in the eyes of many voters to the point where its candidate, Hamon could come in fourth or even fifth in first round voting. All that changed for Fillon, when in late January it was discovered that he paid (with public money) his Welsh wife - Penelope up to €10,000 a month as a parliamentary assistant when Fillon was a deputy in France's National Assembly. Penelope was also paid large sums to work for a literary publication owned by a friend of Fillon. This 'affair' is now know as 'Penelopegate' in France.
It's not illegal for French MPs to hire family members, they have a staff budget. Fillon also hired two of his children but for someone who wants to cut down on government spending and downsize the French civil service, it sure looks hypocritical. Fillon has said he'll step aside if indicted, it's not clear what work Penelope did but there is now a police investigation and if it's found she was being paid for doing nothing, then an indictment could be in the works.

Where does this leave the election? Well Le Pen must be loving it, as she spins Penelopegate to show an out of touch political establishment and how France is ready to elect her à la Donald Trump. That begs the question, could Le Pen be elected? Anything is possible but one big difference between France and the US is that France elects its president by popular vote. Le Pen would need to get a majority, something her Front national hasn't had an easy time doing outside of a few municipalities. Also Le Pen is running with the support of her Front national and not the support of one of France's more traditional political parties.

The real wildcard in this election is Macron. He was Hollande's aide and then Finance Minister but left in August 2016 to start En Marche! He's doing better than many thought and could make it into the second round in the wake of Penelopegate. Macron's running from the center, as neither left or right. In recent history that hasn't been a great recipe for winning a presidential election but maybe times have changed. The fact that Hamon, aka, France's Bernie Sanders received the Parti socialiste nomination opens up some room for Macron and the support from those in the Parti socialiste who are more social democrats than socialists. Hamon's main policy proposal is universal income of €700 per month for all, regardless of income. "

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Done. Moving out. Back to Europe. [View all] GoneOffShore Feb 2017 OP
Can I go with you? 2naSalit Feb 2017 #1
Me too? fleur-de-lisa Feb 2017 #17
Say hello to Yamina for me at the Institut Americain BeyondGeography Feb 2017 #2
Feel the same here Jake Stern Feb 2017 #3
Looking that up now oldtime dfl_er Feb 2017 #4
Never would I have imagined actually planning ways to leave America. Jake Stern Feb 2017 #6
I tried to get my husband to buy a condo on Bonaire two summers ago... mnhtnbb Feb 2017 #19
If I didn't have a child I'd likely stay. Jake Stern Feb 2017 #31
I've thought about moving to Europe VMA131Marine Feb 2017 #5
Not thrilled that the citizenship program my partner and I are applying for Jake Stern Feb 2017 #8
I live in the UK FunkyLeprechaun Feb 2017 #10
My stupid bf oldtime dfl_er Feb 2017 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Jake Stern Feb 2017 #9
Get rid of him and find another citizen ot a Euro country who will. nt raccoon Feb 2017 #14
I really want out, too, but I can't leave my family, and my husband has an excellent job. manicraven Feb 2017 #11
I often wondered True Dough Feb 2017 #12
I don't blame you. NanceGreggs Feb 2017 #13
Are you sure Toronto is safe? Ghost Dog Feb 2017 #23
Given that I am in Canada ... NanceGreggs Feb 2017 #37
I want to leave, too. alarimer Feb 2017 #15
I'm in the same process. Hope to be gone in 6 months. sinkingfeeling Feb 2017 #16
I don't blame you. fleur-de-lisa Feb 2017 #18
my daughter has lived in Paris for the last five years. ginnyinWI Feb 2017 #29
We have French friends in Aix--have known them 30 some years-- mnhtnbb Feb 2017 #20
Feel the same Va Lefty Feb 2017 #21
France would not be an improvement over the U.S. athena Feb 2017 #22
"There is a good chance that this country and its institutions will survive Trump" Jake Stern Feb 2017 #24
This was just sent to me by a friend who lives in Paris. GoneOffShore Feb 2017 #25
Next year JustAnotherGen Feb 2017 #26
Will be visiting Sydney Australia soon.... Should be interesting after Trump's remarks! lucca18 Feb 2017 #27
I have the opposite reaction. I had been planning to move out of New York after 9/11. Squinch Feb 2017 #28
+1 narnian60 Feb 2017 #32
France? AlexSFCA Feb 2017 #30
See my earlier post. GoneOffShore Feb 2017 #33
Bon Voyage pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #34
As the expression goes, I'm getting too old for this shit. GoneOffShore Feb 2017 #35
I don't blame you. You've done your time, you're entitled to seek some peace. pinboy3niner Feb 2017 #36
If I could go it would be Australia. mackerel Feb 2017 #38
best of luck to both of you n/t orleans Feb 2017 #39
Don't blame you one bit, I would blow this pop stand if I could. Not financially able to, sadly. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2017 #40
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