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19. Back in '08 and '09 -- Actually I was buying like crazy
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 09:17 AM
Mar 2017

(and selling too, since I didn't have much "new money&quot

[font color = blue]>>I can count on one finger the number of my clients that were burning up my phone after March of '09 (when the market bottomed and started back up) with buy orders.<<[/font]

I had inherited a lot of stuff in late '05, and along with my own stuff I had accounts at about 6 different brokerages at least. It was in the '08 and '09 period when I got around to consolidating and simplifying all that -- selling what I didn't want and using the proceeds to buy, yes, gasp, equities (equity mutual funds).

The nice thing with the selling of what I sold at the bottom is that I had lovely capital losses (for tax purposes) that I'm still using up ($3,000 / year offset my regular income, plus offsetting the inevitable forced capital gains distributions). So it was a lovely lovely time to do the consolidation / simplification / cleaning (while still maintaining my overall equity allocation by buying replacement equities).

I even set up margin accounts at the 3 financial institutions I retained, and was thinking of buying equities via margin loans in the '08 - '09 period, but the margin loan disclosure stuff was so scary that I didn't. Drat drat drat. But at least, on net, I hung on to my equity allocation at a very scary time.

[font color = blue]>>TimING the market is not nearly as important as time IN the market. <<[/font]

Timing would be a fabulous tool, but I don't know anybody who has done it consistently well (aside claims in investment newsletters which I ignore, where they are all sterling geniuses). The vast majority of investors -- as shown by studies by Dalbar and others -- get it backwards -- selling after say a 20%-30% drop, and not buying again until the market has recovered and gone way above its old peak. A big loss compared to investors who just held on.



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i dont think so. drray23 Feb 2017 #1
I'm retiring in the next 6 months GP6971 Feb 2017 #3
I would recommend going with the major True Dough Feb 2017 #2
That's less of a joke than you think..........n/t fNord Feb 2017 #6
Private prison stocks. Mendocino Mar 2017 #10
Sessions? True Dough Mar 2017 #12
Dah Mendocino Mar 2017 #13
No. I've been in the stock market since June 1987 yeoman6987 Feb 2017 #4
Hmm, since then, the Vanguard S&P 500 index fund (VFINX) has gone up 14.967 fold progree Feb 2017 #7
That would depend..... fNord Feb 2017 #5
oh, yes, I've been invested in Vanguard's S&P 500 fund for many years... Rollo Feb 2017 #8
One thing to consider... 2naSalit Feb 2017 #9
No Metsie Casey Mar 2017 #11
You can't let your personal feelings influence your investing BainsBane Mar 2017 #14
Yes and no... Rollo Mar 2017 #15
One loses the farm when indexes crash, only if one sells before the recovery progree Mar 2017 #16
OK, sure, five or six years for the markets (and one's investments) to recover... Rollo Mar 2017 #17
Sell bonds to meet living expenses in down markets progree Mar 2017 #23
The problem is that even bonds are no longer a safe haven... Rollo Mar 2017 #24
"But nobody has a fool proof formula for investing success." A HERETIC I AM Mar 2017 #18
Back in '08 and '09 -- Actually I was buying like crazy progree Mar 2017 #19
In 2009 I watched a stock I owned dip down to the price I'd paid for it 10 years earlier Rollo Mar 2017 #22
Not so fast my friend TrackFan12 Mar 2017 #20
Obviously it's a good idea to sell SOME (sell high) at the peaks in order to accumulate Rollo Mar 2017 #21
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