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syringis

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129. Especially when it comes to flu...

Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:58 AM

Oct 2017

If I remember well, flu virus evolves and from a year to the next is a new one.

I'm not in the medical field and do not have the appropriate vocabulary in addition to not be an English native speaker. I hope I'm clear.

It is hard to argue with anti vaxxers in general. Though, even if not evolving in the medical field, it is easy to get right information.

Speaking in general, anti vaxxers kills more than do ant kind of shot.

Several countries had to force vaccination thru laws. At least for kids and some kind of diseases. It is hard to see some diseases almost eradicated, back because vaccination was refused.

It is known that we don't all react the same way, and in a few cases, vaccines caused serious damages. But these cases are very rare. At the population level, benefits are incomparably higher.

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Get your flu shot [View all] Ohiya Oct 2017 OP

Always get it the third week in October elfin Oct 2017 #1

Me, too. I wait to be absolutely sure it is the right time. The pharmacies push it, tho. CTyankee Oct 2017 #47

No XXXX, Sherlock. Brainstormy Oct 2017 #161

Great, good luck, I'm next week. Ohiya Oct 2017 #131

Got mine last week. I heard it IS going to be a bad flu year. appleannie1943 Oct 2017 #2

Great, I hope it's not going to be bad this year, but you never know. Ohiya Oct 2017 #132

Never have and never will. Doreen Oct 2017 #3

Absolutely. I Totally Agree.... becca da bakkah Oct 2017 #14

Glad to know someone else thinks like me on that subject. Doreen Oct 2017 #15

they're not getting SICK Skittles Oct 2017 #16

I have found that Washing hands and keeping things sanitized works just fine. Doreen Oct 2017 #17

yes Skittles Oct 2017 #19

You're supposed to wash your hands? LuckyCharms Oct 2017 #67

don't fall for this fucking bullshit, LuckyCharms Skittles Oct 2017 #69

Oh I was just being sarcastic. I am getting my flu shot within the next week or so... LuckyCharms Oct 2017 #70

you know it Skittles Oct 2017 #71

As one with chronic illness(es). I thank you. n/t auntAgonist Oct 2017 #90

Yeah, and keep your hands out of your nose and eyes... Ohiya Oct 2017 #142

I'm not sure washing hands is enough to prevent flu syringis Oct 2017 #128

+1 nt steve2470 Oct 2017 #33

+1 KT2000 Oct 2017 #59

Read about the MFM008 Oct 2017 #37

+1 nt steve2470 Oct 2017 #39

It killed more people than WWI sarge43 Oct 2017 #145

Flu shots for folks over 60 Brainstormy Oct 2017 #76

More anti-vaxxer idiocy. Aristus Oct 2017 #82

My information came directly from the CDC and NIH websites Brainstormy Oct 2017 #107

I've tried being nice to anti-vaxxers. It doesn't work. Aristus Oct 2017 #109

And here's my data: Direct quote from the CDC Brainstormy Oct 2017 #111

Aristus works in the medical field and sometimes hears a lot of nonsense. fleur-de-lisa Oct 2017 #121

Even if it is true the vaccine is zero percent effective for people over 60, that is no excuse. Laffy Kat Oct 2017 #157

That is so ridiculous that the stupid just burns. Brainstormy Oct 2017 #159

I said, in summary, that even if a minority of people were immunized it would... Laffy Kat Oct 2017 #162

The woo mongerers are unlikely to stop. Thor_MN Oct 2017 #158

Wrong - "The $1.6 billion business of flu womanofthehills Oct 2017 #112

"Big Pharma doesn't make money on vaccines" - FALSE - womanofthehills Oct 2017 #116

I agree trixie2 Oct 2017 #95

All I can say is... Ohiya Oct 2017 #141

Hate to ruin that stat, but for at least two well over 60 folks, sarge43 Oct 2017 #146

Seriously? Brainstormy Oct 2017 #160

The flu shot doesn't give you the flu. Aristus Oct 2017 #18

people believe anything they hear Skittles Oct 2017 #20

Misinformation and misperception may have something to do with it, as well. Aristus Oct 2017 #25

I hear you Skittles Oct 2017 #44

+1 nt steve2470 Oct 2017 #34

Especially when it comes to flu... syringis Oct 2017 #129

you are more clear than most of the republicans I know Skittles Oct 2017 #130

So it is not the flu but most people I talk to who get it get sick afterwards. Doreen Oct 2017 #26

What they're getting sick with is not the flu. Aristus Oct 2017 #29

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #35

I got mine Monday, just felt draggy. Lars39 Oct 2017 #48

I really appreciate your input in these kind of threads steve2470 Oct 2017 #28

Thank you. Aristus Oct 2017 #31

so true nt steve2470 Oct 2017 #32

Thank you, Aristus! fleur-de-lisa Oct 2017 #50

Always a pleasure... Aristus Oct 2017 #56

Just because one does not get a flu shot does not mean they are an anti-vaxxer. trixie2 Oct 2017 #68

I don't care what a person's motives or beliefs are. Aristus Oct 2017 #77

You say you are a medical person of licensing? trixie2 Oct 2017 #108

I'm a Physician Assistant. Certified by the NCCPA, and licensed by the State of Washington Aristus Oct 2017 #110

Hello, there is a Vaccine Injury Compensation Program for people who have been injured by the flu womanofthehills Oct 2017 #115

Thank you trixie2 Oct 2017 #124

Their minds are made up, Aristus. Don't confuse them with facts. n/t sarge43 Oct 2017 #147

I don't get the shot EVER trixie2 Oct 2017 #66

THE FLU SHOT DOES NOT MAKE YOU SICK Skittles Oct 2017 #96

Untrue - WHY is there a Vaccine Injury Compensation Program? womanofthehills Oct 2017 #117

there are SIDE EFFECTS to ALL MEDICINES Skittles Oct 2017 #119

I filled my car's washer fluid and then got a flat tire Orrex Oct 2017 #75

Uhmmm, you better get yourself to the doctor. Doreen Oct 2017 #80

It could have been worse. You could have gotten a flu shot, and then JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2017 #87

They don't use live virus. Laffy Kat Oct 2017 #99

I did not say the friends I had got sick from the flu they just got sick after the shot. Doreen Oct 2017 #101

Excellent idea. Chocolate should be required following immunizations. Laffy Kat Oct 2017 #102

"They don't use live virus" - Flu Mist DOES USE LIVE VIRUS womanofthehills Oct 2017 #118

You're right, it does. I just researched it. Laffy Kat Oct 2017 #149

Anecdotal evidence is comforting LanternWaste Oct 2017 #114

So far so good, I hope you stay healthy, Washing your hands a lot is very helpful... Ohiya Oct 2017 #133

Good luck, stay healthy... Ohiya Oct 2017 #143

I am waiting for a plague of locusts. redwitch Oct 2017 #4

It's really not safe. samplegirl Oct 2017 #5

Well, THAT certainly convinces me. nt COLGATE4 Oct 2017 #7

Health care is bad for you. Iggo Oct 2017 #23

Snort! eom fleur-de-lisa Oct 2017 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author steve2470 Oct 2017 #30

do you chant at midnight, too? Skittles Oct 2017 #45

I am an RN tymorial Oct 2017 #51

Life has a 100% mortality rate. Aristus Oct 2017 #83

Was told Monday by my doctor that they're already seeing cases here in TN. Lars39 Oct 2017 #6

I think locusts and fiery hail are next. Then the plague. :( Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #8

Thanks for posting this Ohiya! I got mine last week! skylucy Oct 2017 #9

Gonna get mine next week. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #10

Oddly enough, I didn't get that one. Our office of about 100 people, everyone sick. Shrike47 Oct 2017 #12

What is interesting is that the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918 mainly killed young adults smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #36

A couple of my grandmother's siblings died in that epidemic. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #38

Yes, that's how it spread here in the states. I am sorry for the loss of your great aunts/uncles. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #41

Pubs shortsighted? They don't care if a whole bunch of us die of the flu or whatever. Nay Oct 2017 #43

And the reason so few people over the age of 50 got that flu PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #55

Will get mine this week marigold20 Oct 2017 #153

DH and I got them last week. We old, we have a baby grand daughter. Shrike47 Oct 2017 #11

I got mine during a recent hospital stay. Frustratedlady Oct 2017 #13

Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #21

Bullshit. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #40

That was the psychosomatic flu video, huh. Iggo Oct 2017 #46

Got it and a pneumonia shot yesterday. blogslut Oct 2017 #22

Of course sitting Presidents are immune so there is one person who clearly is exempt NotASurfer Oct 2017 #24

did it for the first time the other day, in my doctor's office! nt steve2470 Oct 2017 #27

Got mine last week. I also heard from the pharmacist that it was supposed to be Nay Oct 2017 #42

I always do riverbendviewgal Oct 2017 #52

Thanks for reminding everyone! fleur-de-lisa Oct 2017 #53

Yep, did it, all done! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #54

OK, OK, OK I am going to go get one down the street at Rite Aid. Doreen Oct 2017 #57

Yay! Thank you, Doreen! Lars39 Oct 2017 #63

All done. Doreen Oct 2017 #65

There ya go! :-) Lars39 Oct 2017 #73

I am not anti-vaxxer, but I don't get the flu shot. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #58

A robust immune system does not prevent you from getting the flu tymorial Oct 2017 #62

It also helps if you've had the flu before. You get immunity from that. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #64

You basically just repeated what I said :) tymorial Oct 2017 #78

Ah, another variation on the time-honored patient stand-by: Aristus Oct 2017 #84

I agree trixie2 Oct 2017 #94

What I am most bothered by is the blanket recommendation that EVERYONE PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #105

Agreed - there are no absolutes esp. few studies on repeat vaccinations womanofthehills Oct 2017 #120

I had not run across that before. Quite interesting. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #125

Way too early, you get it once you hear of a person getting the flu, so it works best at peak season Not Ruth Oct 2017 #60

Got mine 2 days ago. nancy1942 Oct 2017 #61

Trump Pandemic....... Historic NY Oct 2017 #72

nope don't get the flu shot littlewolf Oct 2017 #74

You sure you didn't just get a cold? Iggo Oct 2017 #79

Almost everyone who refuses the flu shot tells the same story: Orrex Oct 2017 #81

are they simply unable to google for the FACTS? Skittles Oct 2017 #97

I've spent years trying to understand it, and I've failed Orrex Oct 2017 #104

I / my friends / my coworkers got the flu shot and it made them sick! Skittles Oct 2017 #113

I can't even begin to count the number of ethical boundaries you have contravened. Aristus Oct 2017 #85

amazing ... littlewolf Oct 2017 #89

The chances of you getting the strain of flu for which the vaccine did not offer protection are Aristus Oct 2017 #91

he doesn't HAVE to know you Skittles Oct 2017 #98

!!! Kali Oct 2017 #100

Well, that seems to have shut him up. Thank you, Skittles. Aristus Oct 2017 #106

seriously ... I just ignore this .. trash the thread littlewolf Oct 2017 #150

Good luck, stay healthy... Ohiya Oct 2017 #140

My Grandfather died during the 1918 Flu Epidemic Submariner Oct 2017 #86

Paradoxically, that strain affected healthy young adults the worst Wednesdays Oct 2017 #93

Morality rate in the US was half a million in less than a year. sarge43 Oct 2017 #123

Done! Beartracks Oct 2017 #88

Great, good luck, I'm next week. Ohiya Oct 2017 #139

it's required where I work Texasgal Oct 2017 #92

They tried to pass a law here recently saying employees could not be required to get one. Ohiya Oct 2017 #138

Got mine last Tuesday NBachers Oct 2017 #103

Great, good luck, I'm next week. Ohiya Oct 2017 #137

Got it done today. sarge43 Oct 2017 #122

I'm constantly thinking... Ohiya Oct 2017 #134

"What fresh hell is this?" n/t sarge43 Oct 2017 #144

Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #126

Whatever works for you... Ohiya Oct 2017 #135

Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Oct 2017 #148

You probably never had the flu mchill Oct 2017 #127

I thought I was going to die the last time I had the flu! Ohiya Oct 2017 #136

Thanks for the reminder. I was just there and forgot. Ugh Freethinker65 Oct 2017 #151

Will get mine Friday. Lifelong Protester Oct 2017 #152

I've never had the flu. Not sure anyone in my family has, either Siwsan Oct 2017 #154

I got flu and pneumonia shots 2 months ago free at Publix Awsi Dooger Oct 2017 #155

fwiw, if you get shingles, you can get the vaccine. Lars39 Oct 2017 #156

You get a $5 coupon if you get your shot at Target or CVS TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #163