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socialist_n_TN

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18. This ties in well to something Workers Power is doing now........
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 08:41 AM
Mar 2012

at least the American section. We're updating the women's pamphlet for timing and culture (originally written in the late 90s for a British audience). The first chapter deals with the historical perspective of women in society and it talks about historic progression. I'll see if I can summerize and put it into this context.

The original social organization of human society were nomadic bands of hunter-gatherers. As the population grew and history progressed, it became a slave holding and owning society because this was a better organization for accumulation of material goods. Then on to feudalism and then capitalism. Jesus and his followers lived in the slave owning society. But it appears they rejected this society for the one that society was previously organized around. They were itinerate and nomadic, didn't own slaves, and kept their goods in common. All hallmarks of the previous organization. And although the "official" records don't show it, they were apparently fairly egalitarian as to gender roles which was ALSO a hallmark of the original societal organization of humanity. At least comparatively speaking they were egalitarian.

Rather than communist, I think it's fair to say that they were hankering for the "good old days" previous to the slave owning progression.

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Was Jesus a communist? [View all] TBF Mar 2012 OP
He probably was. Turbineguy Mar 2012 #1
Fundie's heads are exploding. demosincebirth Mar 2012 #2
Thanks, I'll take that as a compliment :) TBF Mar 2012 #4
Well, he cared a whole bunch about people madamesilverspurs Mar 2012 #3
"All the believers were together and had everything in common." arcane1 Mar 2012 #5
The early Christians believed in community... BB_Troll Mar 2012 #27
Du rec. Nt xchrom Mar 2012 #6
Matthew Marx Luke and John ... Its right there in the Bible. Loudmxr Mar 2012 #7
Very droll dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #10
The CPUSA facebook thread on this is going nuts. Starry Messenger Mar 2012 #8
Well he seems to have had a beard like Che's dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #9
I've never liked trying to ascribe modern political ideas to ancient thinkers. white_wolf Mar 2012 #11
Not at all ww, that's a reasonable criticism and you make a good argument. nt TBF Mar 2012 #13
Doesn't it taint the rest of his teachings... BB_Troll Mar 2012 #28
Rude? srjmsbnd Apr 2012 #31
My post to this group last December: freshwest Mar 2012 #12
"There is nothing spiritual about capital.........." socialist_n_TN Mar 2012 #14
Communal fits Jesus and the 12 very well. white_wolf Mar 2012 #15
'I don't want to get rid of religion, I just want it out of politics.' I think that was Marx's view. freshwest Mar 2012 #16
I agree with Marx on that too - TBF Mar 2012 #19
It must be kept away as too many people have different views. A person's perception of reality is freshwest Mar 2012 #21
I see your point... BB_Troll Mar 2012 #29
I can't say he was a communist but limpyhobbler Mar 2012 #17
Very good point limpyhobbler. nt TBF Mar 2012 #20
This ties in well to something Workers Power is doing now........ socialist_n_TN Mar 2012 #18
Another important thing to remember when talking about the politcal views of Jesus... white_wolf Mar 2012 #22
Update on the film - TBF Mar 2012 #23
Free chance to see "Jesus Is a Commie" ldellapiana Mar 2012 #24
Thank you for the heads up. Starry Messenger Mar 2012 #25
Thanks for posting this on DU in the first place ldellapiana Mar 2012 #26
Dragging in Bible Thumping and Religion srjmsbnd Apr 2012 #30
Fair enough - TBF Apr 2012 #32
Bible Quote srjmsbnd Apr 2012 #33
Most likely not but rather an apocalypticist. eomer Apr 2012 #34
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