Socialist Progressives
In reply to the discussion: What does Socialism look like to you? [View all]TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)something or even a debate of somethings we have little way of picturing from our perspective.
I don't see what the option is other than willingness to tolerate and eventually active pursuit of mass murder of humans on a never before seen scale and outright genocide of non-human species which eventually would be almost certainly suicidal.
Limited resources, ever decreasing need for labor, historic productivity, innovation, environmental damage (limitations on freshwater alone threatens chaos), and the collection of wealth into so few hands with the many fighting over hardly scraps puts too much pressure on the current mix to hold up. It just doesn't make any sense in our present state of development. Even those that earnestly believe that the greater mix of capitalism we have now is the best we've come up with are always evasive when asked to plug their belief into emerging context.
In fact, they are pretty much left stammering about the New Deal era when even discussing today's economic realities. The stammering comes when the conversation goes away from the philosophical to the practical even when describing using more socialism in the mix to head off socialism dominating the mix because they cannot account for the availability of accessible resources in a cleaner world with a far lower population in a world with few competitors but with the check of a competing ideology in a Jim Crow and barefoot and pregnant, stay in the kitchen America.
Religious devotion to a one generation exception under general conditions we cannot duplicate that actually was limited in general benefit at high deferred costs is not being serious, it is simplistic, nostalgic, and hand to mouth.
So, I guess the most important thing socialism can be is breaking down the reflexive and I say religious devotion to an economic philosophy that has it's place as a tool but has proven to be as a poor a master of a free people as any other that can be named. I guess it does create a new level of freedom for the ruling class that none have been able to maintain for any length of time before essentially via the sales point that you too can join the club.