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white_wolf

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7. Hobbs view of humanity was the state of nature.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:54 PM
Jan 2013

It is different from Rawl's Veil of Ignorance. I thin the point of the of the Veil of Ignorance as a thought experiment is to show just how difficult it would be to reform society along just lines when you have such inequalities already present. Here is short except from the article below:

"No one knows his place in society, his class position or social status; nor does he know his fortune in the distribution of natural assets and abilities, his intelligence and strength, and the like". The idea then, is to render moot those personal considerations that are morally irrelevant to the justice or injustice of principles meant to allocate the benefits of social cooperation."

Here are a few articles on Rawl's theories if you want to read them:

Justice as Fairness, which is Rawl's concept of justice. It's also the title of his most accessible book on his philosophy I suggest you check it out. It's very interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_as_fairness

Veil of Ignorance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veil_of_ignorance

Original Position. This is Rawl's answer to "State of Nature" proposed by Hobbs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_position

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I Love You Two [View all] Left Turn Only Jan 2013 OP
It'll never work......... socialist_n_TN Jan 2013 #1
Never is a big word Left Turn Only Jan 2013 #3
Have you ever read John Rawls? white_wolf Jan 2013 #2
Hobbs view of humanity? Left Turn Only Jan 2013 #4
Hobbs view of humanity was the state of nature. white_wolf Jan 2013 #7
It won't work and that's not because of socialism. TBF Jan 2013 #5
I Only Wish Left Turn Only Jan 2013 #6
What it involves is getting the money out of the hands of the few TBF Jan 2013 #8
What's the post title mean? limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #9
Sorry for the ambiguity Left Turn Only Jan 2013 #10
We are at a phase where corporate power Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #11
I love my little aphorism about this....... socialist_n_TN Jan 2013 #12
Exactly! Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #13
1st step is saying that it can be done Left Turn Only Jan 2013 #14
Step one, IMO, for the US, is going to have to be to dismantle the power of the monopolies. Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #15
Total agreement! Left Turn Only Jan 2013 #16
I'm curious as to your age - TBF Jan 2013 #17
age Left Turn Only Jan 2013 #18
Isolationism - TBF Jan 2013 #19
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